FW 190 F missing?

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FW 190 F missing?

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Hello,

having finished the first scenario and starting the second one, I recently noticed that the FW 190 F is missing (meaning the unit does not show up for purchase)?
Didn't notice it from the start, because I imported from my Panzerkrieg core army...

Greetings Peanut
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Re: FW 190 F missing?

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I suggest to read forum posts, here you can find help on any topic
have good time (the answer to your question is in this thread)
viewtopic.php?f=264&t=88468
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Re: FW 190 F missing?

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kondi754 wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 12:24 am I suggest to read forum posts, here you can find help on any topic
have good time (the answer to your question is in this thread)
http://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtop ... 64&t=88468
Well first, thanks for your hint.
Second, I don't look for bug descriptions in a thread called "Mistakes vere made, mein Fuhrer - Endsieg Review and Discuss"...
Third, I don't like to mess around with csv files, there should be an official hotfix.

The thread also serves as a reminder for the developers.

Greetings, Peanut
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Re: FW 190 F missing?

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ok, so everyone will know the answer now
but I still think it's worth reading :wink:
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Re: FW 190 F missing?

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kondi754 wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 9:12 am ok, so everyone will know the answer now
but I still think it's worth reading :wink:
Hello Kondi,

please don't get me wrong, I really appreciate your advice and I think it's great that you're offering a solution right now! :)

The reason why I would like to have an official hotfix is that I don't know which criteria the developers use to set the introduction dates.

For example, for the FW 190 G you suggest the date 1.10.1943 as the introduction date. How do you come up with this date?
Is this confirmed by the developers or estimated by you?
The first machines of the G-series were already produced at the end of 1942, the large-scale production ran from April 1943 to the end of March 1944.
As you can see, there is a certain range of possible dates.

Hence my desire for an official patch/hotfix.
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Re: FW 190 F missing?

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You're right, it's the developers' duty to release official patches
I proposed ad hoc solution for impatient players :)

I think that autumn 1943 is a good moment to introduce this plane to the game, resulting primarily from the dynamics of the development of German fighters
We should have some time to enjoy the F version before we upgrade it to the G version
The basis of my proposal, however, are mainly historical issues ...
Since October 1943 Luftwaffe began to create new fighter-bomber battlefield close support units, equipped with the Fw 190 version F and G, which began to be used on the eastern front instead of Ju 87
Previously, these were planes version A converted to the G standard (1942), only from the summer of 1943 began to equip them with hooks for additional fuel tanks and bombs suspended under the fuselage
(The fact that production began in the spring of 1943 doesn't mean that these planes were on the front at that time, the process of creating new units, training them on new aircraft continues ...
half a year is still very fast for introducing new equipment and new units to the front)
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Re: FW 190 F missing?

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kondi754 wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 11:08 am You're right, it's the developers' duty to release official patches
I proposed ad hoc solution for impatient players :)
Yeah, official patches usually take their time, so to say...
kondi754 wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 11:08 am We should have some time to enjoy the F version before we upgrade it to the G version
The way I see it, the FW190G version is not available in the game. It's flagged "noEditor,noPurchase" in the units file. Or did I misunderstand something?
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Re: FW 190 F missing?

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Ah the fw190A is too weak.. Losing strength like mad with the buffed number of allied fighters. Waiting for patch i guess!

P.S. is anyone keeping track to all the bugs in the units.csv? Would help devs I'm sure.
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Re: FW 190 F missing?

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GabeKnight wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 12:31 pm
kondi754 wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 11:08 am You're right, it's the developers' duty to release official patches
I proposed ad hoc solution for impatient players :)
Yeah, official patches usually take their time, so to say...
kondi754 wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 11:08 am We should have some time to enjoy the F version before we upgrade it to the G version
The way I see it, the FW190G version is not available in the game. It's flagged "noEditor,noPurchase" in the units file. Or did I misunderstand something?
Ok, I didn't notice that fact, so this version isn't available, sorry :oops:
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Re: FW 190 F missing?

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13obo wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 12:37 pm Ah the fw190A is too weak.. Losing strength like mad with the buffed number of allied fighters. Waiting for patch i guess!

P.S. is anyone keeping track to all the bugs in the units.csv? Would help devs I'm sure.
So you don't want to use my hints and are you waiting for developers? :shock:
(I'm afraid you'll wait a long time... :twisted: so maybe you can delete this entry yourself... :twisted: )

I checked the unit.csv file and everything looks ok with availability dates, only...
- Fw 190 F (incorrectly entered and unnecessary end of service date)
- Fw 190 G (not available)
- British Meteor, Tempest and Typhoon (not available - otherwise bad availability dates, in the wrong format), but these aircraft are "hanging" because they weren't available in Burma DLC

All other dates look proper
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Re: FW 190 F missing?

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13obo wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 12:37 pm P.S. is anyone keeping track to all the bugs in the units.csv? Would help devs I'm sure.
Yep, there's a "Current Bugs - Version 7.1.4" thread in tech support.

But to be honest, I'd be more interested how many of the bugs from the "Unit issues 6.1.8" thread with 126 - I repeat one-hundred-twenty-six - posts have really been addressed and fixed. :shock: :shock:
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Re: FW 190 F missing?

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kondi754 wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 1:17 pm So you don't want to use my hints and are you waiting for developers? :shock:
(I'm afraid you'll wait a long time... :twisted: so maybe you can delete this entry yourself... :twisted: )

I checked the unit.csv file and everything looks ok with availability dates, only...
- Fw 190 F (incorrectly entered and unnecessary end of service date)
- Fw 190 G (not available)
- British Meteor, Tempest and Typhoon (not available - otherwise bad availability dates, in the wrong format), but these aircraft are "hanging" because they weren't available in Burma DLC

All other dates look proper
Don't take it personal, kondi! I just like to play games with official content/patches only- I'm sure there'll be more bug fixes than the 3 lines you suggest, and don't mind waiting for as long as necessary. Btw I did see your fix suggestion but deleting those dates caused issues with all units disappearing.
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Re: FW 190 F missing?

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@13obo
Don't edit unit.csv file in Excel or OpenOffice
I use the special LibreOffice program, which someone recommended me

below download link:
(set: separator options - separated, semicolon
language - I set English (USA)
coding - Unicode (UTF-8))

https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blo ... -download/

Everything works perfectly :D
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Re: FW 190 F missing?

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I guess i can edit it in notepad but I don't get why it doesn't work through excel as the file is saved as csv so shouldn't lose it's features
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Re: FW 190 F missing?

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13obo wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 2:12 pm I guess i can edit it in notepad but I don't get why it doesn't work through excel as the file is saved as csv so shouldn't lose it's features
I don't know why, but I've the same problem like you
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Re: FW 190 F missing?

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GabeKnight wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 12:31 pm The way I see it, the FW190G version is not available in the game. It's flagged "noEditor,noPurchase" in the units file. Or did I misunderstand something?
I don't get it - why implement a fighter unit if you don't use it or unlock it?
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Re: FW 190 F missing?

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Correct me if I'm wrong but I think such units can still be assigned to be obtained from specializations or given as one-off "unique unit" rewards.
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Re: FW 190 F missing?

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Its just a problem with someone doesnt import units from previous campaigns. For me,me410 is good versus fw190-f
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