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Interesting. Have you tried multiple strategic bombers? Hopefully you could reduce the ammo count to 1, but, at this early point your bombers might not be strong enough for that.braccada wrote:I will have more time next week, than I can show it live. Not the Brückenpioniere though, because they are not necessary and I want to have no excess complexity in my battle plan. They were one of the backup plans I had in mind.
And yeah at Manstein the area around the fortification is a death zone, I tried to send in Oleh Dir from the southwest and got him instantly killed (the train and HQ fortress can knock him out in one go). Same on the eastern side. Tanks going in there have a bad time and in the open the big fortress has a chance for a one shot kill I think. Moreover the strategic bombers do not have enough punsh to do a significant amount of suppression. In short the attack needs a lot of preparation
I found it works well to bring a strong tank in the southwest and dangle another strong one in the east within range backed by a sturmpanzer to prevent follow-up attacks. The forts try to do prestige damage rather than destroy individual units, so they'll opt to shoot at the next available 12-strength tank rather than gang up on a single one iirc, or Oleh Dir who's very cheap and in the forest.TSPC37730 wrote:Interesting. Have you tried multiple strategic bombers? Hopefully you could reduce the ammo count to 1, but, at this early point your bombers might not be strong enough for that.braccada wrote:I will have more time next week, than I can show it live. Not the Brückenpioniere though, because they are not necessary and I want to have no excess complexity in my battle plan. They were one of the backup plans I had in mind.
And yeah at Manstein the area around the fortification is a death zone, I tried to send in Oleh Dir from the southwest and got him instantly killed (the train and HQ fortress can knock him out in one go). Same on the eastern side. Tanks going in there have a bad time and in the open the big fortress has a chance for a one shot kill I think. Moreover the strategic bombers do not have enough punsh to do a significant amount of suppression. In short the attack needs a lot of preparation
Sturmpanzers could also be useful. I don't like their ammo count but their ability to move in from a safe distance & then fire could be useful depending on your approach.
Another quick random thought is this. Could you dangle some weak units as target bait? If you advance 3 units at once (with the third being the strongest unit and the one which will do the attacking) hopefully the AI will target the weaker units with the ranged fire. Since the train & fort could take out a unit in one turn, ideally you would advance in a manner such that the bait units would be in range of one gun but not both. Then you could use green replacements to hold on for another turn while your strongest unit goes to work. Not quite sure if the map would allow this strategy - there might not be enough room. I'm looking forward to seeing how you solve this puzzle. I have to agree, at this level, you have to plan your attack very carefully.
It think it is still a net win with the extra victory hexes though.shawkhan2 wrote:I would say the forces are about the same in point value except I do have better armor right now. I have been lucky getting SE units which are promptly sold off when not armor. I have tried desperately to keep my casualties low as the prestige accumulations are so pitiful. Seldom take more than one or two damage on my units. I admit I also had to take a marginal victory(my only one ) at Modlin. I have an attack hero on one SE tank and a movement hero on one Gebirgs. That is it so far.
Do you think it possible to go beyond 1942 playing with these handicaps? I see no way I can afford to upgrade to the better PzIVs and FW190 to name just two otherwise very necessary unit types. Guess we will see.
From campaign.pzdat (edited) DV MV Loss. 0 means lose the GC
