43-45 Soviet units wish list

[GUNDOBALDO08]

And this is for Soviet:
Scout:
Ba64
Tank:
T70
T80
T34/43
T34/57
T34 flame
KV1S
KV85
IS1
IS2
Antitank:
76mm zis3
Su85
Su100
Su155
Isu155
Isu122
Isu122S
Planes:
La5FN
yak3
P39 airacobra (us)
P47 (us)
IL4 sturmovik
IL10
Ar-2
A20 havoc (us)
Pe-8
Yak-4
Tu-2
Infantry:
Sms subamchine infantry, with bonus for close combat’ like in cities and forest.
Guards (as new faction, like ss for germans)
Snipers

[kondi754]

T-34/85
and not IS-2 but IS-122, it was the proper name for this tank, wrong name IS-2 was adopted after the war by some historians, and it has remained in historical literature to this day

[GUNDOBALDO08]

We have yet T34-85, maybe it could be great have more version of it...

[GUNDOBALDO08]

Ops I forgot Kosmomolets as infantry armoured transport

[GUNDOBALDO08]

And please, new and specifically skin for infantry, Russian infantry has generic 3d model, I’d like to see specific helmet and uniform...

[GUNDOBALDO08]

And this

[GUNDOBALDO08]

And also...

[kondi754]

T-34/43 = T-34/76
You're right, we have T-34/85, sorry

[ubcbeer]

and Tupolev Tu-4 and Mig-9 or 15 for what-if scenarios

[GUNDOBALDO08]

I forgot La7 fighter

[Erik2]

T90 SPAAG
85mm M1939AT (Switch AA)
M3 Halftrack lend-lease
Mountain inf

[bebro]

and not IS-2 but IS-122, it was the proper name for this tank, wrong name IS-2 was adopted after the war by some historians, and it has remained in historical literature to this day

I thought only the prototype was named IS-122, and IS-2 was used when it went into production?

But I just read this in wiki, I don't claim to be an expert on this....

[GUNDOBALDO08]

I think you’re right bebro.

[kondi754]

and not IS-2 but IS-122, it was the proper name for this tank, wrong name IS-2 was adopted after the war by some historians, and it has remained in historical literature to this day

I thought only the prototype was named IS-122, and IS-2 was used when it went into production?

But I just read this in wiki, I don't claim to be an expert on this....

I read somewhere that the IS-2 name didn't appear anywhere, in any Soviet document from the war period. All the time this tank was marked in documents (army, industry or supply services) as IS-122. IS-2 appeared only after the war and it so spread around that we forgotten about the original name, I read about it but I don't remember where ...
I will look for this book or article and I will send it to you

[kondi754]

I'm still looking, but one of the arguments are the serial numbers of the individual tanks.
serial numbers of some tanks called IS-2 today:
Serial Number ис122- 40381 (Great Patriotic War museum, Minsk (Belarus))
S/N IS-12240334 (The Collings Foundation, Stow, MA (USA))

However, tanks called today IS-1 had serial numbers starting with IS-85 (and now are called in this way in historical literature)

I am sure that the IS-1 and IS-2 names weren't used during the war!

[kondi754]

correction: IS-1 and IS-2 names were used during the war but definitely less frequently. The most common terms in the Red Army documents are IS-85 or IS-122.

[CoolDTA]

Those tanks were renamed in the spring of 1944 (IS-85 -> IS-1 and IS-122 -> IS-2 or maybe IS-2 mod. 1943 to be more precise, because there was an improved version IS-2 mod. 1944 (not IS-2M)). No wonder the names used varied because of the Soviet paranoia, but imo IS-1 and IS-2 are today well established and it is ok to use them to avoid confusion.

[kondi754]

Those tanks were renamed in the spring of 1944 (IS-85 -> IS-1 and IS-122 -> IS-2 or maybe IS-2 mod. 1943 to be more precise, because there was an improved version IS-2 mod. 1944 (not IS-2M)). No wonder the names used varied because of the Soviet paranoia, but imo IS-1 and IS-2 are today well established and it is ok to use them to avoid confusion.

Sory, but I just read that it is not true.
Even if there were any orders or directives about the name change, the army continued to use the old names (IS-85 or IS-122) in most of the available documents until the end of the war.
IS-1 or IS-2 names were rare.
These names became widespread only after the war thanks to some historians who didn't take their time to investigate how the practice at the front looked like.

[CoolDTA]

Sory, but I just read that it is not true.
Even if there were any orders or directives about the name change, the army continued to use the old names (IS-85 or IS-122) in most of the available documents until the end of the war.
IS-1 or IS-2 names were rare.
These names became widespread only after the war thanks to some historians who didn't take their time to investigate how the practice at the front looked like.

Well, if it were only some historians, then the names IS-1 or IS-2 would not be used everywhere, but they are. Notwithstanding, I'd be very interested in reading more of the matter. I'm sure you can provide some of the sources you refer to.

Re. the original subject, I guess ZSU-37 SPAAG could be in the game and let's definitely not forget Lend-Lease M17 MGMC.