Cold Wars, March 13-15, 2009 in Lancaster, PA
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Cold Wars, March 13-15, 2009 in Lancaster, PA
Field of Glory at Cold Wars 2009
Friday
Mini-Themes
We will be trying a new event design this year in an effort to create more historical matchups, while retaining the flexibility of an open event. Each player should bring an army list from any published FoG army list book. Prior to the start of the event the players will be broken down into pools of 4-8 armies, matched as closely as possible by date and region. Each round will be matched up within the pools. Secondary consideration will be given to separating players from the same club.
There will be a 15mm event at 650 points for sure. If there is enough interest a 25mm event will also be run at 600 points. 25mm players are encouraged to bring a 15mm backup army.
First round: noon – 3:00
Second round: 4:00 – 7:00
Third round: 8:00 – 11:00
Please check in no later than 11:45 in order to ensure that the event can start on time. All players, in both scales, are encouraged to contact Marc Crotteau at juvenileshark @ yahoo.com in advance of Cold Wars to say which scale they are likely to play.
Saturday
Doubles Open Tournament
Each doubles team of two players brings a legal army from any published FoG army list book. 15mm will be played at 1000 points on a 4x6 table, 25mm will be at 800 points on a 5x8 table using 40mm MU. There will be a 15mm event for sure. If there is enough interest than a 25mm event will also be run; 25mm teams are encouraged to bring a 15mm backup army. First round matchups will be done with a view toward avoiding games between club mates, secondarily for historical matchups.
First round 9:00am to 1:00pm
Second round 2:00pm to 6:00pm
Third round 7:00pm to 11:00pm
All players, in both scales, are encouraged to contact Marc Crotteau at juvenileshark @ yahoo.com in advance of Cold Wars to say which scale they are likely to play.
Edit: to clarify the table size and MU for 25mm.
Friday
Mini-Themes
We will be trying a new event design this year in an effort to create more historical matchups, while retaining the flexibility of an open event. Each player should bring an army list from any published FoG army list book. Prior to the start of the event the players will be broken down into pools of 4-8 armies, matched as closely as possible by date and region. Each round will be matched up within the pools. Secondary consideration will be given to separating players from the same club.
There will be a 15mm event at 650 points for sure. If there is enough interest a 25mm event will also be run at 600 points. 25mm players are encouraged to bring a 15mm backup army.
First round: noon – 3:00
Second round: 4:00 – 7:00
Third round: 8:00 – 11:00
Please check in no later than 11:45 in order to ensure that the event can start on time. All players, in both scales, are encouraged to contact Marc Crotteau at juvenileshark @ yahoo.com in advance of Cold Wars to say which scale they are likely to play.
Saturday
Doubles Open Tournament
Each doubles team of two players brings a legal army from any published FoG army list book. 15mm will be played at 1000 points on a 4x6 table, 25mm will be at 800 points on a 5x8 table using 40mm MU. There will be a 15mm event for sure. If there is enough interest than a 25mm event will also be run; 25mm teams are encouraged to bring a 15mm backup army. First round matchups will be done with a view toward avoiding games between club mates, secondarily for historical matchups.
First round 9:00am to 1:00pm
Second round 2:00pm to 6:00pm
Third round 7:00pm to 11:00pm
All players, in both scales, are encouraged to contact Marc Crotteau at juvenileshark @ yahoo.com in advance of Cold Wars to say which scale they are likely to play.
Edit: to clarify the table size and MU for 25mm.
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The main answer is time constraints. Friday morning is travel for a lot of the attendees, which means that we start the event at noon. And that means shorter rounds and smaller armies.ars_belli wrote:Just curious - why is the 15mm singles event set for 650 points, rather than 800 points?![]()
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There is also a bit of an effort to get some variety into the Cold Wars and Historicon events. Historicon features more "traditional" 800 point events.
Will you be coming to play?
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Re: Cold Wars, March 13-15, 2009 in Lancaster, PA
babyshark wrote:Field of Glory at Cold Wars 2009
Friday
Mini-Themes
We will be trying a new event design this year in an effort to create more historical matchups, while retaining the flexibility of an open event. Each player should bring an army list from any published FoG army list book. Prior to the start of the event the players will be broken down into pools of 4-8 armies, matched as closely as possible by date and region. Each round will be matched up within the pools. Secondary consideration will be given to separating players from the same club.
There will be a 15mm event at 650 points for sure. If there is enough interest a 25mm event will also be run at 600 points. 25mm players are encouraged to bring a 15mm backup army.
First round: noon – 3:00
Second round: 4:00 – 7:00
Third round: 8:00 – 11:00
Please check in no later than 11:45 in order to ensure that the event can start on time. All players, in both scales, are encouraged to contact Marc Crotteau at juvenileshark @ yahoo.com in advance of Cold Wars to say which scale they are likely to play.
Saturday
Doubles Open Tournament
Each doubles team of two players brings a legal army from any published FoG army list book. 15mm will be played at 1000 points on a 4x6 table, 25mm will be at 800 points on a 6x8 table. There will be a 15mm event for sure. If there is enough interest than a 25mm event will also be run; 25mm teams are encouraged to bring a 15mm backup army. First round matchups will be done with a view toward avoiding games between club mates, secondarily for historical matchups.
First round 9:00am to 1:00pm
Second round 2:00pm to 6:00pm
Third round 7:00pm to 11:00pm
All players, in both scales, are encouraged to contact Marc Crotteau at juvenileshark @ yahoo.com in advance of Cold Wars to say which scale they are likely to play.
Heya Marc;
Right now I am planning on attending CW........however..........geesh, hate to broach this subject again......BUT........do you allow 10mm figs in the 15mm comp, assuming they are on 40mm frontage (with depth slightly larger) with more figures per base (i.e. 10 figs for heavy foot per base).
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Re: Cold Wars, March 13-15, 2009 in Lancaster, PA
Marc is travelling but the answer in the past from him has been yes if clear.davidsmith wrote: Heya Marc;
Right now I am planning on attending CW........however..........geesh, hate to broach this subject again......BUT........do you allow 10mm figs in the 15mm comp, assuming they are on 40mm frontage (with depth slightly larger) with more figures per base (i.e. 10 figs for heavy foot per base).
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Re: Cold Wars, March 13-15, 2009 in Lancaster, PA
Yippee............will the comp also allow the latest list book (the dark age one) to be used?hazelbark wrote:Marc is travelling but the answer in the past from him has been yes if clear.davidsmith wrote: Heya Marc;
Right now I am planning on attending CW........however..........geesh, hate to broach this subject again......BUT........do you allow 10mm figs in the 15mm comp, assuming they are on 40mm frontage (with depth slightly larger) with more figures per base (i.e. 10 figs for heavy foot per base).
How's the Crusaders?
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Re: Cold Wars, March 13-15, 2009 in Lancaster, PA
Don't want to speak for Marc, but since it has a uS publish date 30 days before Cold Wars I would think so.davidsmith wrote:
Yippee............will the comp also allow the latest list book (the dark age one) to be used?
How's the Crusaders?
Crusaders are glorious and the basing fits reasonably closely with my other 28mm.
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Excellent.......thanks. Another query............of course I would enter the 650 pt., if I wanted to play in the doubles, would I need to secure a partner prior to the tourney, or will there be stragglers available?babyshark wrote:The answer is yes to both recently posted questions. 10mm figures are allowed if based properly for 15mm figures; the usual rules apply as regards to clearly defining the bases as they are put on the table. As for books, any then-published army list book is allowed.
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There are often stragglers with whom to partner. For instance, last year (under DBM) my regular partner failed to appear and I picked up with another guy in the same circumstances. No guarantees though. If you lack a partner let me know as early as possible. My practice is to let people know that someone is looking; that usually works.davidsmith wrote:Excellent.......thanks. Another query............of course I would enter the 650 pt., if I wanted to play in the doubles, would I need to secure a partner prior to the tourney, or will there be stragglers available?babyshark wrote:The answer is yes to both recently posted questions. 10mm figures are allowed if based properly for 15mm figures; the usual rules apply as regards to clearly defining the bases as they are put on the table. As for books, any then-published army list book is allowed.
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No need to show your list beforehand. I do ask that people planning to play drop me a line, either as a PM in this forum, or at juvenileshark @ yahoo.com so that I can get an idea of attendance. However, because of the nature of Cold Wars (and Historicon for that matter) there is a lot of what might be termed "walk up business." Since I do not want to turn away players at this still-early stage in the FoG life-cycle I do not require list checking for Cold Wars or Historicon. That may change in future years.Ninthplain wrote:Would you like to see army lists prior to arriving for the Friday tourny?
This may make it easier to spilt folks up and give you an idea how many folks are competing.
Ninthplain
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Hmmm. I believe I mis-typed that. It should be 8x5 tables. Yes to 40mm MU; that seems to be the standard for 25mm these days.footslogger wrote:Will the 25mm event really be on 8x6? Historically all we have been able to muster there is 8x5. I'm fine with 8x6, just curious. And we'll be using 40mm MUs for 25s?
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I'd like to propose that in the 25mm event, given 40mm MUs on a 5' deep table, we reduce the deployment zone to 8MUs with 12MUs for skirmishers. Little Wars was my first experience playing with only 5' tables (we normally use 6) and it seems that there needs to be a reduction to the deployment zone size for this. Jeff claimed that's what they use where he games and it works out pretty well. I believe that.
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Not being a 25mm player at all I have no opinion on this issue. If there is a consensus in the community I am happy to go with it, whatever it is. However, in the interest of making sure that all are equally informed, we need to know whether there is a consensus in either direction and post it here prior to the event. The default position is to use the normal deployment distances. Any input, people?footslogger wrote:I'd like to propose that in the 25mm event, given 40mm MUs on a 5' deep table, we reduce the deployment zone to 8MUs with 12MUs for skirmishers. Little Wars was my first experience playing with only 5' tables (we normally use 6) and it seems that there needs to be a reduction to the deployment zone size for this. Jeff claimed that's what they use where he games and it works out pretty well. I believe that.
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I'm looking for a partner for the 15mm doubles tournament at Cold Wars. My regular partner can't make it this year. I have around 12 FoG games under my belt and a decent grasp of the rules. I used to be a regular at the Cold Wars/Historicon DBM tournaments, but have only played in one FoG tournament (Fall-In). Check out my battle reports in the AAR forum (they are on the first page). I wargame for the fun, challenge, and camaraderie. I'd like to use my Later Medieval Germans for the tournament, but am open for suggestions. Private Message me on this forum if you are interested.
Thanks,
Matt
Thanks,
Matt