Loss of Rear Support Dice

[kal5056]

If a BG of 6 Med foot swordsmen with 3 light foot bow is disrupted and is charged by a BG of cav they start with the following dice: 6 impact dice for the 3 front units and 3 support shooting dice. I must lose 3 dice for being disrupted.

Can I choose to lose the 3 shooting dice (Less POA) or must I lose them proportionaly (ie 2 impact and 1 shooting)?

Thank You
Gino
SMAC

[hammy]

All the dice are considered impact dice so you add them together and then lose them proportionately

[sagji]

You must loose proportionately when there is a difference in POA or quality.
If you can't then you loose the better POA or quality.

So you have to loose 2 front rank dice and 1 support dice.
If you were fragmented you would have to loose 4 dice out of 9, which would be 3 front rank and 1 support.

If only 2 bases were contacted then you would have 4+2 dice and
If disrupted would loose 2 for 2+2.

[shall]

If only 2 bases were contacted then you would have 4+2 dice and
If disrupted would loose 2 for 2+2.

Not quite. You lose 1 dice from the 4 as it has a complete set of 3. This then become 1 + 2 to deal with for the next one so it comes out of the 2. You then end up with 3+1.

This the way it works always - remove dice from full sets and take the last one from the majority, choose if equal. So had you somehow managed % + 2 you would then have 1 from the five to make 2 + 2 and there could choose where the dropped dice came from.

So only rarely will there be a choice.

Si

[MarkSieber]

Don't the LF lose one per two dice, thus making only 2 support shooting dice for the full BG before the effects of disruption?

[hammy]

Don't the LF lose one per two dice, thus making only 2 support shooting dice for the full BG before the effects of disruption?

Good point, I sort of assumed MF support shooting but...

In this example you would start with 6 impact dice plus 3 support shooting dice.
The three support dice are then reduced to 2 because they are from LF (lose 1 dice per 2) leaving 6 impact and 2 support.
Finally you lose 1 dice per 3 for disruption so you lose 2 of the 6 impacr dice and end up with 4 impact and 2 support which interestingly is exactly the same as you would get against disrupted troops supported by MF shooters.....

[kal5056]

I thought when receiving a charge with a mixed BG of Med or Hvy foot with LF Support that at impact each LF base provided 1 dice. Is that incorrect?

[kal5056]

This settles it. I am definately buying a seecond copy of the fules to keep at work.
Any idea when a second edition will be released with the erata included?

[hammy]

I thought when receiving a charge with a mixed BG of Med or Hvy foot with LF Support that at impact each LF base provided 1 dice. Is that incorrect?

Supporting troops provide 1 dice per base at impact but light foot still lose the 1 per 2.