Generals in cohesion tests

[vakarr]

I am trying to remove confusion in my mind from previous versions of FoG so- as I understand it, in FoG 2 ,
1. a general has no effect on cohesion tests unless he is in combat, and then he only affects units in his square or next to him?
2. the other role for a general is to join a unit that has lost cohesion, to cause it to attempt to rally?
2a - if a general joins a routing unit, then he is routing and can't be used again until he rallies?
3. That's it, otherwise all generals do is give a bonus in combat and a bonus to rates of turn if in command range?

In FoG 1 it might have been a good tactic to put a General with a light horse unit, so he can run around in the rear rallying units, but in FoG 2 he's better off being in combat, just let the units rally themselves?

[rbodleyscott]

I am trying to remove confusion in my mind from previous versions of FoG so- as I understand it, in FoG 2 ,
1. a general has no effect on cohesion tests unless he is in combat, and then he only affects units in his square or next to him?

It is command range/4. So adjacent squares for a troop commander, 2 squares for field commander, 3 squares for great commander.

2. the other role for a general is to join a unit that has lost cohesion, to cause it to attempt to rally?

Yes

2a - if a general joins a routing unit, then he is routing and can't be used again until he rallies?

Yes

3. That's it, otherwise all generals do is give a bonus in combat and a bonus to rates of turn if in command range?

Yes.

in FoG 2 he's better off being in combat, just let the units rally themselves?

I wouldn't agree with that. Putting him in routing units is risky, but putting him in Disrupted units is a good idea - especially if they are not in close combat so he is not stuck there or getting involved in a rout if they fail to rally.

[Lancier]

I only see a sub-commander and a CiC. If great commander is CiC, who is sub-commander- field commander or troop commander? or are they in campaigns maybe that i cant see in MP pbems?

It is command range/4. So adjacent squares for a troop commander, 2 squares for field commander, 3 squares for great commander.

[rbodleyscott]

I only see a sub-commander and a CiC. If great commander is CiC, who is sub-commander- field commander or troop commander? or are they in campaigns maybe that i cant see in MP pbems?

It is command range/4. So adjacent squares for a troop commander, 2 squares for field commander, 3 squares for great commander.

Generals have a quality as well as a type. If you check out the command ranges in a battle you will see that not all generals have the same command range.

TC = 4
FC = 8
GC = 12

In custom battles and sandbox campaigns, you will see only TCs and FCs. The C-in-C and the main infantry sub-general are usually FCs, the others TCs.

In historically-based campaigns and epic battles there may also be GCs if that is historically justified.

[vakarr]

One last question, I note that light troops are generally are not allocated to a command, I suppose because they don't need a free 45 degree turn. However doesn't that mean that only the C-in-C can rally them, so you should allocate them to a command if you want to have a better chance to restore their cohesion? It doesn't matter how many troops are in a command, does it, it just makes it more difficult to fit them within the command range?
Also, I assume there's no point in putting troops in the C-in-C's command as all troops are part of the C-in-C's command anyway?

[rbodleyscott]

One last question, I note that light troops are generally are not allocated to a command, I suppose because they don't need a free 45 degree turn.

This isn't completely true, there is a difference between being in command range and not for light troops, though it is subtle. If a light unit that is in command range moves off at exactly 45 degrees, it will still get a free turn at the end, if it is not in command range, it won't.

Units do not need to be in the same command as a sub-general or CinC in order to use them for command range.

However doesn't that mean that only the C-in-C can rally them, so you should allocate them to a command if you want to have a better chance to restore their cohesion? It doesn't matter how many troops are in a command, does it, it just makes it more difficult to fit them within the command range?

I guess so, though I must admit I have never considered using a general to rally light troops - it doesn't seem likely to often be the best use of resources.

Also, I assume there's no point in putting troops in the C-in-C's command as all troops are part of the C-in-C's command anyway?

I guess not.