Roll Call

dave_r · Post by **dave_r** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 12:02 pm

Who won then?

paulcummins · Post by **paulcummins** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 1:48 pm

not me

philqw78 · Post by **philqw78** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 1:55 pm

15mm: Graham Evans won Immortal Fire, Lance Flint Legions Triumphant.

dave_r · Post by **dave_r** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 2:03 pm

Just out of interest, did Grahams Thracian have 6 BG's of 4x MF, Arm, Ave, Dr, Lt Sp, Swd. Roman doo-dahs?

philqw78 · Post by **philqw78** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 2:48 pm

6 BG's of ..............Roman doo-dahs

Didn't play it but know it had 19 BG. And I know it had some.

dave_r · Post by **dave_r** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 2:55 pm

So how do you beat massed BG's of MF, Ave, Arm, Dri, Lt Sp, Swd?

lawrenceg · Post by **lawrenceg** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 3:00 pm

dave_r wrote:So how do you beat massed BG's of MF, Ave, Arm, Dri, Lt Sp, Swd?

Massed BGs of MF, Ave, Arm, Dri, Lt Sp, SSwd of course.

Or maybe massed BGs of MF, Sup, Arm, Dri, Lt Sp, Swd.

hammy · Post by **hammy** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 4:13 pm

lawrenceg wrote:
dave_r wrote:So how do you beat massed BG's of MF, Ave, Arm, Dri, Lt Sp, Swd?
Massed BGs of MF, Ave, Arm, Dri, Lt Sp, SSwd of course.

Or maybe massed BGs of MF, Sup, Arm, Dri, Lt Sp, Swd.

I quite fancy massed superior unprotected heavy weapons.

azrael86 · Post by **azrael86** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 5:30 pm

I thought the problem had been identified as 'how do you beat Graham?'

grahambriggs · Post by **grahambriggs** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 6:13 pm

dave_r wrote:Just out of interest, did Grahams Thracian have 6 BG's of 4x MF, Arm, Ave, Dr, Lt Sp, Swd. Roman doo-dahs?

Aye, it did. Plus 3x6 MF heavy weapons, 1 Mob and lots of LF/LH

I lost to it but took 11 attrition off it with my Early Achaemenids. Had I remembered the charge direction rules correctly (my fault) I would have taken that up to 15 and only lost 8 myself. My deployment was far from good as well.

It's a strong army but, for all it's 19 battle groups it's not too good at frontal combat. A mix of good medium foot and armoured hoplites gave it a tough time. I suspect the key to playing against it is deploying well, turning the table and facing it in a big tough line.

I'd hope to do a bit better against it next time. Oh, and i beat the other Thracian (which only had 16 armoured foot)

andy63 · Post by **andy63** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 6:26 pm

dave_r wrote:So how do you beat massed BG's of MF, Ave, Arm, Dri, Lt Sp, Swd?

I believe my Alexandrians Macedonian can beat it may not get his army (Soooo Big) but i think i could have beat it.
I came second and never got to play Grahams Thracian's so i will never know.

Andy.

chubooga · Post by **chubooga** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 11:35 pm

I am interested, I didnt go, but would like to see some lists and AAR from the top players..............

I'm guessing swarm armies, of any type, were hard to beat in 3.5hrs and if the swarm is comfortable in terrain then factor that difficulty up a few notches............

What was in the army that won the Legions period? note how the players name is not included, as I in no way intend to provoke a discussion on how good a player anyone is or isnt...........

jon

daveallen · Post by **daveallen** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 9:01 am

In the 25mm there were 14 different armies, Tom Ellsworth won with Free Company on 73 pts despite only taking one point from his first game.

Tom's commanding win in the final game catapulted my HYW English into second place slightly ahead of Ian Speed's pretty Picts.

Dave

nikgaukroger · Post by **nikgaukroger** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 9:38 am

daveallen wrote:
In the 25mm there were 14 different armies, Tom Ellsworth won with Free Company on 73 pts despite only taking one point from his first game.

Ah, a masterful display of the "Zorick Manoeuvre" then - hi, Ethan