Supporting LF

[madcam2us]

A few questions. Page numbers would be nice.

situation: BG with supporting LF are contacted in the Flank or rear by a unit of skirmishers ONLY - contacting the supporting LF.

Impact:
1- drop in cohesion Y/N
2- Number of dice for each - supporting LF vs other LF
3- Number of dice for each- supporting LF vs LH
4- factor would be -- vs ++ due to flank/rear contact Y/N
5- Do the supporting LF ever count as the type of foot the rest of the BG is made up from?
Melee:
6- When can the heavier foot move to support the melee?
7- Can the inactive player after the active player lines up and feeds bases, move any troops from his front to fight the rear attacking BG?
8- if so, when/how are they reformed?

General:
supporting LF SUCK! Y/N.

Madcam.

[carlos]

1- drop in cohesion Y/N
No, unit is not a unit of skirmishers as it's mixed.

2- Number of dice for each - supporting LF vs other LF
What you'd expect w/ no halving. You didn't say how big the BGs were so hard to answer really.

3- Number of dice for each- supporting LF vs LH
Half for each LF, 1 for each 2nd rank MF or HF, 1 for each LH.

4- factor would be -- vs ++ due to flank/rear contact Y/N
Of course. That happens even if LH or LF charge the flank or rear of a non-skirmisher unit.

5- Do the supporting LF ever count as the type of foot the rest of the BG is made up from?
No. BGs fight as the front rank of each file.

Melee:
6- When can the heavier foot move to support the melee?
They can create overlaps if possible, otherwise they can't switch w/ the LF in front of them unless the LF die of course.

7- Can the inactive player after the active player lines up and feeds bases, move any troops from his front to fight the rear attacking BG?
Only if he goes to match an overlap. Otherwise he can't send the LF back and replace it w/ MF/HF.

8- if so, when/how are they reformed?
NA.

General:
supporting LF SUCK! Y/N.
Cool against mounted as the extra dice can be very useful. Good to bolster the size of expensive units like sup legio. They suck in a lot of circumstances though, such as being charge in the back!

[lawrenceg]

A few questions. Page numbers would be nice.

situation: BG with supporting LF are contacted in the Flank or rear by a unit of skirmishers ONLY - contacting the supporting LF.

Impact:
1- drop in cohesion Y/N
2- Number of dice for each - supporting LF vs other LF
3- Number of dice for each- supporting LF vs LH
4- factor would be -- vs ++ due to flank/rear contact Y/N
5- Do the supporting LF ever count as the type of foot the rest of the BG is made up from?
Melee:
6- When can the heavier foot move to support the melee?
7- Can the inactive player after the active player lines up and feeds bases, move any troops from his front to fight the rear attacking BG?
8- if so, when/how are they reformed?

General:
supporting LF SUCK! Y/N.

Madcam.

1: P56 for dropping a level, p136 for definition of skirmishers
2: As laid down in the table for dice thrown in combat
3: ditto
(some people misunderstand the table: LF lose dice except to hit LF. LH lose dice except to hit LH or LF.)
4: As specified in the impact POA table.
5: Not unless you can find a rule that says they do.
6: As specified in the turn sequence p 168 (Feed additional bases...)
7: As specified on pp72-73
8: Reform on p70, feed in more bases pp 72-73, timing as specified in the turn sequence p 168.

[philqw78]

But LF would not be able to charge them in the open, even in flank/rear, as it as not a skirmisher target.

[lawrenceg]

But LF would not be able to charge them in the open, even in flank/rear, as it as not a skirmisher target.

Who says they are in the open?

[carlos]

I assumed a legal charge had happened, so not in the open in the case of LF.