Rzhev Salient

[terminator]

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Is it only a bug in the text or in the trigger ?
3 VP and the counter indicate 4/2. 4/3 should be correct.

[ineptie]

Same behaviour for me and the scenario ends with a defeat. Dont know if am am missing something or not. I control all the objectives + Ramyenka and Olenino.

[Andy2012]

Same behaviour for me and the scenario ends with a defeat. Dont know if am am missing something or not. I control all the objectives + Ramyenka and Olenino.

Please post a savegame. And ideally describe what went wrong / how you did things.

[ineptie]

Here you go.
I have included my final save file + the replay

Also the objective to let 2 units replenish their forces near the supply depot is failing too

Thanks

[robertahyuk]

I'm not going to buy Panzerkrieg until I get my Rising Sun campaign back. Lost two campaigns after updating to 5.2.0 and 5.2.1. They show on my programs and features on the drive but not the game.
On another note, I always found with the Rzhev Salient that the Stug HAS to be in the Assembly area. If not? You get a defeat.

[ineptie]

i think i may have found why the scenario ended in defeat for me.
I've lost to many VPs on the first turn but it did not ended directly with a defeat.
So i've went on with my game thinking that i only needed to recapture everything but it doesnt appear to be the case.
Will give it a try

[bru888]

i think i may have found why the scenario ended in defeat for me.
I've lost to many VPs on the first turn but it did not ended directly with a defeat.
So i've went on with my game thinking that i only needed to recapture everything but it doesnt appear to be the case.
Will give it a try

That's exactly right, ineptie, and thanks for posting your game files which helped a lot. Whether it's by design or not, that objective to Hold at 3 least Primary VP is strict. You lost that objective when the Soviets took both Bely and Sychovka in the first turn:

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The trigger says, if that happens, then not only that objective is failed, but the other one to Control all Primary VPs by the end is also failed and shut off:

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So you failed two of the three primary objectives right off the bat and only the Capture Ramyenka and Olenino objective was left to go for at best a minor defeat. Again, whether this is by design is up to the designers to determine. Seems very harsh, though.

The other thing about "4/2" appearing in the counter for Hold at 3 least Primary VP is related to this error, I believe. This trigger is looking at two different objectives:

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[ineptie]

Thanks guys for the answers.
That was exactly the case.
i was able to complete the mission by making sure not to loose more than 1 VP.
All i did is leave one infantery on all VP !

[cusano]

Sorry to wheigh in, but I'm in the same place and, as far as I remember, haven't lost more than one primary VP during the game.
I attach my savegame file, if someone could help me, It'd bre great!

[Panzerkrieg] Rzhev Salient - Turn 12 (Turn End).zip

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Thanks!

[GabeKnight]

Sorry to wheigh in, but I'm in the same place and, as far as I remember, haven't lost more than one primary VP during the game.
I attach my savegame file, if someone could help me, It'd bre great!
Thanks!

Hi. What's the issue exactly? Your savegame file plays fine with me, except you're going to have a real hard time winning this scen IMO.
You should consider lowering the difficulty setting...

[cusano]

Hi Gabe, thanks for responding.
As far as I know, I've ocuppied the two cities, the 4 primary VP, and have not lose more than one VP. Shouldn't it be over?
What I'm missing?
And yes, I've been stuck here for more than a month :S
Thanks again!

[GabeKnight]

As far as I know, I've ocuppied the two cities, the 4 primary VP, and have not lose more than one VP. Shouldn't it be over?
What I'm missing?

Usually you have to "obey" the primary objectives for the whole set of turns in a scenario. Twenty was it here, right? The objective even says to control all of them by the end.

And yes, there are "early victory" conditions in some scenarios, even in this one, I believe, but I don't think it triggers before turn 16-ish and definitely not before the enemy airborne attack's over...

[cusano]

Uhhh ok! Thank you!
More suffering to come..

[cusano]

Done! Thank you!

[GabeKnight]

Done! Thank you!

Whoa! Did you seriously achieve victory from THAT savegame? I wasn't sure if even I would pull if off. Respect! Care to share the replay?

[cusano]

No, I learnt from you that I could adjust the game difficulty, lowered it to major and had no trouble
I will try it again with the maximum difficulty level in the future, nevertheless. Now that I know the objective's pace.
In retrospective, I don't know if ai played all the BK campaign in hardest mode. Some missions were extremely difficult (no slack).