army configuration changing

[paulmcneil]

Just atarted finding that after configuring a 2000 pt army, configuration is lost, and a load of dross units are put into configuration by auto configure feature, has just started doing this, is it a bug? also board size parameters change back to default for no apparent reason, what is going on?

[rbodleyscott]

Just atarted finding that after configuring a 2000 pt army, configuration is lost, and a load of dross units are put into configuration by auto configure feature, has just started doing this, is it a bug?

I don't really understand what you are describing.

What to you mean by "configuring"? - Force slection, Deployment, something else?

What do you mean by "auto configure?" - do you mean the Autofill button or the Autodeploy button?

Do you mean that you had used up all the available points and the units you selected just disappeared? Or had you perhaps selected some units and then hit Autofill - which added the "dross" units?

also board size parameters change back to default for no apparent reason, what is going on?

If you click any of the battle size buttons it will reset the board size parameters.

[paulmcneil]

Thanks Richard, I'll be a bit more precise:

I select V.Large for army size
I make sure default is clicked rather than autofill
I select the units I want within the army from the configuration list
I choose the size of board and terrain
I click to issue challenge (skirmish)
when it is accepted by another player, and we come to play, my army has been wholely, or occasionally partially, auto filled with units I didn't choose.

That's the main problem.

Second problem is after choosing size of play area, it sometimes reverts to default size if I go back into unit selection, and has to be rest to the size I want again.

I think they may be part of the same problem, i.e. user chosen variables being reset to default when part of the set up screen is exited.

Hope that helps?

Paul

[rbodleyscott]

Thanks Richard, I'll be a bit more precise:

I select V.Large for army size
I make sure default is clicked rather than autofill
I select the units I want within the army from the configuration list
I choose the size of board and terrain
I click to issue challenge (skirmish)
when it is accepted by another player, and we come to play, my army has been wholely, or occasionally partially, auto filled with units I didn't choose.

Right, I understand the problem.

I select the units I want within the army from the configuration list

You are using the button in the skirmish setup screen. That is just an army list preview, it does not set your units. Your units are set during the force selection phase in the actual battle at the start of your first turn.

Second problem is after choosing size of play area, it sometimes reverts to default size if I go back into unit selection, and has to be rest to the size I want again.

I think they may be part of the same problem, i.e. user chosen variables being reset to default when part of the set up screen is exited.

This should not be an issue if you only use the army list preview before setting up the rest of the challenge. As I say, the army list preview is not how you select units, it is just a preview.

[paulmcneil]

OK Richard, in that case it seems that I am not getting a "force selection phase" at the beginning of a match. The preview screen is giving me the option to adjust number of units of different types within the army, but doesn't always save my choices.

So two questions;

1. should the force selection phase at the beginning of a match come up automatically? (In which case it isn't working on my matches)
2. why am I being able to vary the types and numbers of units in an army if the preview page is just a preview and has no bearing on the force to be used in the game?

Hopefully I'm not just doing something wrong. I'm pretty sure that on a number of games I have been able to pick the types and units that the army contained in the match, but never from the first turn of the match.

Thanks for any help,
Paul

[rbodleyscott]

OK Richard, in that case it seems that I am not getting a "force selection phase" at the beginning of a match. The preview screen is giving me the option to adjust number of units of different types within the army, but doesn't always save my choices.

It doesn't ever save your choices. It isn't meant to. It is only a preview.

So two questions;

1. should the force selection phase at the beginning of a match come up automatically? (In which case it isn't working on my matches)

Yes, unless you clicked the auto button, or either army is "Pot Luck".

The system is designed so that "Pot Luck" really is pot luck - you get a pot luck army list and pot luck army composition.

That being the case, if either army is Pot Luck, it would not be fair for one side to be able to pick his units and the other not, so the game switches to autoselection for both sides. That is why the Force Selection "Default" button says "Default" and not "Player".

Default = player selection for both sides if both army lists are specified, auto-selection for both sides if either army is "Pot Luck".

[Note that allowing player force selection for "pot luck" armies is on the wishlist, but isn't very easy to implement because of the way the original pot luck design was implemented].

2. why am I being able to vary the types and numbers of units in an army if the preview page is just a preview and has no bearing on the force to be used in the game?

So you can test out what force composition you could have before you decide to use that army. You don't have to use this feature if you don't want to.

Hopefully I'm not just doing something wrong.

But I am afraid you are. You are trying to set your army composition using the preview screen, which will never set your army composition. It isn't meant to.

Sorry you were misled.

[paulmcneil]

OK I see, you're saying it's a feature not a bug

So basically you can't have a free choice of both army and units within the army for both sides. You can only have a choice of units if BOTH army choices are fixed in choice.

That's a shame, for what it's worth I'd say that's a retrograde step. As the game itself is very enjoyable, it's a pity to remove such a basic freedom of choice from players.