Cannot place another airplane

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Schrudcher
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Cannot place another airplane

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Why can i not place the plane on the game map?

I have selected the KI-27 B it only needs 3 command points which i have still left according to the 7 next to the red plan on the righthandside of the hud display.
There are also 3 command points left on the game map according the +3 below the 10 on the airfield. see attachment 1
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In total there are 27 air command points on the map 10 from the airfield en 17 from the 2 aircraftcarriers.
There are 8 airplanes on the map so far, which is 8 * 3 = 24. So there should be room for one more airplane.
But i cannot place 1 more.

can anyone explain to me what is wrong or what i am missing?
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See the red hexes on the top right, around the airfield? That means you don't have enough air supply left to place another plane. Your ability to place units from reserve onto the map depends on two things: Available command points and available supply appropriate to the unit type.

I'm not sure which scenario you are playing, so I cannot check directly. However, I would say one of two things has happened: You recently lost another airfield that contributed air supply or you over-purchased aircraft without realizing the air supply limitation. In either case, if there is a dollar sign ($) on the lower right of the unit in reserve, you may be able to "trade it in" and get back the resources that you paid for it.
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bru888 wrote:See the red hexes on the top right, around the airfield? That means you don't have enough air supply left to place another plane. Your ability to place units from reserve onto the map depends on two things: Available command points and available supply appropriate to the unit type.

I'm not sure which scenario you are playing, so I cannot check directly. However, I would say one of two things has happened: You recently lost another airfield that contributed air supply or you over-purchased aircraft.
I am playing the campain morning sun
It's the senario where you have to capture the 3 ports and the pass which is on the top of the map.
I have the game files if you want them.

Can you please explain how the air supply is calculated.
Because i thought it was 10 + 7 from the carriers and an other 10 from the airfield which is a total of 27 air supply.
8 air planes use up 24 air supply which leaves another 3 for an other plane as indicated from the green +3.
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I'm at work and therefore away from Order of Battle, which makes me bitter! :x So I cannot take a look at it until this evening (US EST). However, in the meantime, press the space bar to see the supply points. Look carefully, because ALL supply points (including land) will be displayed. You want to see the supply numbers shown over airfields and aircraft carriers. Look also at the number of aircraft currently aloft and the supply numbers that they require.
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bru888 wrote:I'm at work
Dont get fired... :shock: :wink: :mrgreen:
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Andy2012 wrote:
bru888 wrote:I'm at work
Dont get fired... :shock: :wink: :mrgreen:
If I do, please take up a collection for me to purchase future OOB DLC. Nothing else matters. :roll:
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bru888 wrote:I'm at work and therefore away from Order of Battle, which makes me bitter! :x So I cannot take a look at it until this evening (US EST). However, in the meantime, press the space bar to see the supply points. Look carefully, because ALL supply points (including land) will be displayed. You want to see the supply numbers shown over airfields and aircraft carriers. Look also at the number of aircraft currently aloft and the supply numbers that they require.
Thats oke mate no problem RL goes first as we always say.

But if u have time take a look at the first picture in this topick.
8 planes using 3 points each equels 24 points in total
2 carriers 1 with 10 points and the other with 7 points. there is also an airfield with 10 points. so thats 27 points in total.

27 - 24 = 3 so there is room for 1 more plane of 3 points if i am not mistaken.

i have this problem on a lot of maps so i just want to know if i miss something or that er is somthing not wright.

it seems to come to the surface when the spacialisation "War Econemy" is taken. But that is an extra command point and should not mater because there are 7 left of that. Just a thought
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First, has this map a name ?
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Re: Cannot place another airplane

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Nanning.
Last edited by bru888 on Tue Nov 07, 2017 12:27 am, edited 4 times in total.
Reason: You are not stupid or "bad" for asking a question and forgetting to tell us the name of the scenario. It does help us to know it, though.
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Re: Cannot place another airplane

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The answer is supply, as I thought. When you add up 27 supply points (not command points, remember), you are correct in thinking that you should have three remaining over to place your Ki 27 B.

HOWEVER, that is a quirk in the program in that it is adding up ALL air supply points. There is a difference between CARRIER-based air supply and LAND-based air supply.

As you can see, I reproduced your situation here. I, too, cannot place my Ki 27 B:
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The reason is explained by the red and green ovals that I drew on this screen print. Red ovals are for the carrier-based airplanes. They total 15 and the carriers provide 17 supply points. No problem.

Green ovals are the land-based airplanes. They total 9 and the airfield only provides 10 supply points. The Ki 27B is a land-based airplane that requires 3 supply. Putting one more on the map would require 12 supply points and the airfield only has 10 for LAND-based air units. The 2 left over CARRIER-based air supply units do not apply to this plane.

So, the quirk is that you are right in that you do have three more TOTAL air supply units available. What the map is not telling you is that those 3 air supply = 2 CARRIER-based air supply + 1 LAND-based air supply. Because of the difference between carrier-based and land-based airplanes, you cannot place any more land-based aircraft, or carrier-based aircraft, on the map in this situation even though the indicator says +3.
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Re: Cannot place another airplane

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Okkie thanks for the explenation.

Did not know that you cannot put land-based air supply points and water-based supply points togehter.

Would it not be handy then to seperate them aswell instead of putting them together.

But thanks again now i know where the restriction comes from.
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