How many SE Units can I have?

[Jelinobas]

AK is a entire (richtiges Wort?) Campain. Start with max 1 SE, End with max 5 SE. DLC's 39-42, East43-East45 have fix SE Slots, 2-3-4-5-6-7-8.

Also AK ist wie das Grundspiel eine in sich abgeschlossene Kampagne, man bekommt im Verlauf mehr SE Slots freigeschaltet, eben 1-5. DLC's haben je feste Werte, zum. die "alten". Bei den Wests hab ichs noch nicht im Detail durchgeschaut.

[SandroV]

Can I dismiss the new SE-unit for prestige points (disassemble the authorities)?
Flush unit to spawn in the future, which I made out the day before?
Example: In the company of the maximum allowable amount in three SE-division, I have two SE-unit and at the end of the scenario, I get another new SE-unit, the third.
However, I make out on his prestige points. Will then get the opportunity to once again SE-unit until the end of the company or I have realized all their bonus features?
There are situations when a bonus in the form of SE-unit very fat on points of prestige, but as the unit is unnecessary.

[hs1611]

Yes. If you disband a SE unite you get the Prestige and you can be awarded another one to replace it later.

[Vorskl]

In Allied Corps, I believe, you can be awarded up to 5 units: 3 infantry and 2 fighters

[Bagaluth]

Hy folks.

I am new to panzer corps, but i am an old veteran of panzer general from 1997.
Because i have not that much time i discovered PC only 2 week ago.
Because PG was the first game i ever payed for and even drove to the Netherlands to purchase it (in Germany the game was on the index), i ordered PC Gold two days ago.
Just started reading here some of the posts to answer the questions that come in mind playing the PC campaigns.
So if i ask some questions that have been discussed here at length, please have mercy with an old ex captain of the artillery who is seldom online.

If i get this thread right, you get only 3 SE units for the 39-45 German campaigns.
Would be nice to have a list for all PC main game campaigns (thanks to whoever posts the assembled information here.)

And if i get the Information about German SE-Units right, you can only get Infantry, Tanks, Fighters and tactical Bombers.
And the SE-planes are first available at 05/1941.

If i get the equipment list right, the best chose for the 39-45 German campaigns would be 3 Ju 87 D's that could be build up to 5 stars for the last 3 US scenarios.
So i will try to get a tank for Norway and a Ju 87 for the lowlands and another for France, but sell the tank in the deployment for France, to have a chance for the next Ju 87 afterwards.
Just being prestige points efficient because i play on Feldmarschall.

If my analysis of the SE situations meets the experience of the long time gamers of PC i would be glad if one of them gives me a thumbs up, that i got it right.

And btw how do i disband a unit in a normal campain game without any mods? In the deploiment i didn't find any buttons that could do it.
edit
OK RTFM so forget the last question.
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THX

Hein Bagaluth

[BiteNibbleChomp]

When you say 39-45 German campaign, you're referring to the "vanilla" Wehrmacht campaign, right? That being the case, I don't think you can get SE planes, only inf and tanks. Planes are limited to AK, unless the gold patch changed something.

- BNC

[Bagaluth]

THX BiteNibbleChomp
I think it is the campaigne you call "vanilla" btw i am new here. Can you explain the meaning of AK to me? The XTLA bubble is not selfexplaining to a newbe.
And by the way is it normal to have to end the maps 9 turns early for a DV on Feldmarschal Level?
THX
Hein

[hurly]

THX BiteNibbleChomp
I think it is the campaigne you call "vanilla" btw i am new here. Can you explain the meaning of AK to me? The XTLA bubble is not selfexplaining to a newbe.
And by the way is it normal to have to end the maps 9 turns early for a DV on Feldmarschal Level?
THX
Hein

AK is Afrika Korps max Number of SE Units is 5

in GC 39 you start with max 2 SE Units possible and get added 1 more for each year up to 8 in GC 45 East
the GC West 42/43 has max 4 SE Units and up to 6 for GC 45 West

in US Corps you start with a max of 3 SE Units in 42 get bumped up to 4 in 43 and max out at 5 in 44/45

Not really sure what the max is for the Vanilla Campaign, Soviet Corps, Allied Corps and Sealion Plus
have either not played them for quite some time or do not really remember the Number I got on them

in US Corps, Afrika Korps Allied Corps you can definitely get Planes as Random SE Units awarded

Have never seen any on the Vanilla Campaign and Soviet Corps and my memories of Sealion Plus are minimal (I should play that campaign again some time soon, it is a bit unspectatscular but I likened the different charme of it)

Have never seen an AntiTank, Recon, AntiAir or Strat Bomber as a SE Unit

Hope this helps

[best75]

When you say 39-45 German campaign, you're referring to the "vanilla" Wehrmacht campaign, right? That being the case, I don't think you can get SE planes, only inf and tanks. Planes are limited to AK, unless the gold patch changed something.

- BNC

You can get SE plane as reward in GC 44 west in Monte Cassino scenario for evacuating the trucks

[Bagaluth]

THX for the informations.
I will try if it is possible to get SE plains from mid 41 in PzC Gold and come back either way to post it.
greetings
Hein

[hurly]

When you say 39-45 German campaign, you're referring to the "vanilla" Wehrmacht campaign, right? That being the case, I don't think you can get SE planes, only inf and tanks. Planes are limited to AK, unless the gold patch changed something.

- BNC

You can get SE plane as reward in GC 44 west in Monte Cassino scenario for evacuating the trucks

You have to differ a bit between the "scripted" SE Units you get on certain scenarios for certain tasks completed and the randomly awarded SE Units.

The Randomly awarded SE Units are basically "Normal" Units with a little Upgrade of 1 in either Hard Attack (Tanks) Soft Attack (Infantry) or Air Attack (Fighters) even 1 more Ammo (for Soviet SE Tanks in Soviet Corps)

These Units are basically Green when they arrive and the actual Type of it is random and a bit bound to the Timeline
(eg you will not get a SE Tiger in 1940 it will be more likely a Panzer 3 or 4, but later on in 43 the chance to get a Tiger is much more likely and the chance to get one of the older Models diminishes)

These Units will basically add a Good Unit to your Core Allowance and do not count vs the Soft Cap


Then there are very few "scripted" SE Units along your several pathes and campaigns (like in Dash to the Wire from Afrika Korps or said Fighter in the GC West Cassino scenario)

These are always the same Units and same Type and given out for solving a special side Task
While the 2 Afrika Korps SE Units come in handy and can be upgraded later just as any Unit they are plain Vanilla Units with no scpecial trait beside the camouflage look and said +1 Bonus for one Category.

The Cassino Fighter is another story
While it comes in handy at the time (especially with that massive double layered hero) and might even up your SE Allowance of 5 at the time, it also comes with a twist. It is a Bf 109G and can not be upgraded.
So despite the superb +4 Att +4 Def +3 Ini Hero that comes with it, a BF 109G in 1945 becomes more and more of a liability and relegates that unit to side status duties.

I kept it with me back then for 2 reasons. I was not sure I would get another SE Unit in 45 if I disband it and was notoriously short on Prestige so its additional Prestige might cover just about the gap of upgrade of serviceable Unit to a Great Unit (like Panzer 3 to Tiger 2 or 2 Fw 190 to a Me 262). Which could either be a great deal if you get another Random SE Unit soon or a real dumb move if you go 1 Unit short the Rest of the Way.

There are a few more "scripted" SE and not all of them are really worth to keep like the 5 SE Transport Units later on which have auxiliary status anyway so they might disappear soon enough. Just disband them and cash in as long as you can

But I think the original question was how many SE Units can I collect at a certain timeline, so the very few and rare "scripted" ones do not really matter.

btw I have to add one thing

While I have never seen anything but a Fighter as a SE Air Unit on Allied Corps or US Corps, you can definitely get a Stuka or BF 110 Tactical Bomber on Afrika Korps so Air Units are not limited to Fighters here.
For all German Grand Campaigns (East or West) I can not recall getting a random SE Air Unit at all, it was always Tanks or Infantry, while on US/Allied corps it was always Fighters or Infantry. In Soviet Corps I can recall Tanks only and I think they all came with +1 Ammo but don't nail me down on that as SE Units on Soviet Corps is really seldom and i'm not even sure this may be Scripted Events. For Sealion Plus I can not help you at all, as I said I likened the Campaign and played it through but there are not a lot of things I can recall from it, besides the fact that there are many parallel Scenario pathes which can be a bit confusing sometimes

[Bagaluth]

A short briefing on the things i tested in PzC Gold.
If you run through the 1939 Blitzkrieg campaingn only with DV's the maximum of SE-units will be 3.
The only SE-units you will be offered are infantry and tanks.
So use the load game option with the last autosave for the allies to get 3 tank units after the first 3 scenarios an be done with it.
THX for the helpful comments to answer my questions.
Hein