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You're welcome Ian - please say you dress on the left and not the right as the king does :D I've added you to the Parliamentarian faction...I'll advise of starting position and colour when I've updated the map Ian.
I am from Somerset so i guess i dress in the middle !

I take what ever you need , i usually play the Royalist but am happy to put on a Round head it need be.

Ian
Great... if you look back down for the map I've already added both you and Kelen
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Gavin,

thanks for the prompt replies. The way you have decided on ownership of districts makes sense and is reasonable. I can see both sides owning 3 full districts after the first move, depending on how people move.

some more questions.....

1/ If a player no longer owns any county at all is he eliminated from the game, or does he become a landless army of 1,000 points?

2/ When a player loses a battle presumably he has to retreat can he retreat into an enemy owned territory? If he does so and there is no enemy army to contest it does he own that county?

3/ if he is not allowed to retreat into enemy territory and there is no friendly county to retreat into is his army destroyed?

4/ If his army is destroyed but he still owns counties does he raise a new army in one of his counties? Who decides which county any such army is raised in?
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Gavin,

I've just tried to set up a couple of battles.

In open battle both forces come in multiples of 100 points. You cannot set up 1050 against 1000. I suggest the easiest solution is to decide that armies that are only 50 apart in strength are actually equal and fight at the size of the smaller army. Civil war armies fluctuated in size from week to week, no General ever knew exactly how many men he had at the beginning of a battle.

Reinforced armies come in multiples of 100, opposing armies come in multiples of 100 + 80. the default starting point is 1200 to 980. So you will need to set rules for deciding what size that reinforcement is.


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Too late for me ?
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Never too late for you LFDLM We might have to open up the lowlands north of the border though (Awesum will be soooo happy) :) I'll wait a lil for any other strays to come in b4 i update.
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[quote="awesum4"]Gavin,


Additions and clarifications

Addition If a player no longer owns any county they are eliminated from the game, unless another player in their faction can divide his territories equally to give him a recruiting base.

Addition When a player loses a battle must retreat. Hew cannot retreat into any enemy territory. He can only retreat into friendly territory. If he cannot retreat he is relocated to the nearest friendly territory. If there is more than one friendly territory option then it is by chance.
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awesum4 wrote:Gavin,

I've just tried to set up a couple of battles.

In open battle both forces come in multiples of 100 points. You cannot set up 1050 against 1000. I suggest the easiest solution is to decide that armies that are only 50 apart in strength are actually equal and fight at the size of the smaller army. Civil war armies fluctuated in size from week to week, no General ever knew exactly how many men he had at the beginning of a battle.

Reinforced armies come in multiples of 100, opposing armies come in multiples of 100 + 80. the default starting point is 1200 to 980. So you will need to set rules for deciding what size that reinforcement is.
Addition Open battles - Armies that are only 50 apart in strength are equal and fight at the size of the smaller army.

Clarifications added
MOVEMENT.........................................................................................TYPE OF BATTLE...............................TERRAIN
Two forces moving into a county................................................................Open battle.....................................Always Pot luck

If one force is already occupying a county.....................................................Defender decides..............................Defender choice unless one general occupies twice or more provinces = their choice

If a defender friendly force is adjacent to the county being attacked......................Reinforced battle for the defender......... Defender choice unless one general occupies twice or more provinces then their choice
[army pts total + extra 180pts reinforcements rounded up in favour of defender]

If an attacker friendly force is adjacent to the county being attacked.....................Reinforced battle for the attacker...........Attacker choice unless one general occupies twice or more provinces then their choice
[army pts total + extra 180pts reinforcements rounded up in favour of attacker]

If equal attacker & defender friendly forces adjacent to the county being attacked....Open battle......................................Pot luck unless one general occupies twice or more provinces = their choice

If more attacker or defender friendly forces adjacent to the county being attacked....Send flank force................................Pot luck unless one general occupies twice or more provinces = their choice
[army pts total + extra 180pts reinforcements rounded down]
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LFDLM wrote:Too late for me ?
I've put you in a Parliament in Damatrios's's place. If I hear from him I'll add him later... you can see the starting position (colour is light purple), and for the full up to date rules if you scroll back to the map posting.
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Hi
I am keen if I am not to late. Andre said there may still be a place left
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Kerry D wrote:Hi
I am keen if I am not to late. Andre said there may still be a place left
You're welcome Kerry, If you see Warlords post reply you'll see you have been set up as a Parliamentarian in Hampshire (Sorry, despite hearing of your Irish Royalist leanings... Royalist recruiting is very popular this time of year) If you view page 2 you'll come across the map and rules.
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Never too late for you LFDLM We might have to open up the lowlands north of the border though (Awesum will be soooo happy) :) I'll wait a lil for any other strays to come in b4 i update.
So my Scots will move north of the border to their true Homeland ?

I see another Christchurch player wants control of a County, that will make four of us. Kerry is of Irish descent so be careful where you place him........ :roll:
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So my Scots will move north of the border to their true Homeland ?

I see another Christchurch player wants control of a County, that will make four of us. Kerry is of Irish descent so be careful where you place him........ :roll:
We'll see Warlord Scotland will definitely be in play now,... although clearly Kerry D will have Irish Royalist in leaning I'm afraid Kerry D is going to have to join the Parliamentarian cause I'm afraid (starting in youngr's old county of Hampshire) as I've promised youngr he had the 1st option to switch to frilly ruffs and good catholic hessian underpants . One day we may redraw the map with shipping lanes to Ireland when I get time (that would complicate moves even more!) In the meantime we may need one more parliamentarian player due to youngr's confirmed defection to the Royalist cause to even up the factions (Youngr I'll update your starting position as soon as possible.
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Can I join? Warlord told me GDod had reserved a place for me.
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Any places left for me to join in? If i'm not too late?
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Seaport wrote:Any places left for me to join in? If i'm not too late?
Just in time Seaport... I was wondering when you'd get here...welcome to the puritanical band of not-merry men I'll kit you out in buff and pop you in a county -please see the map and rules on the previous page. Any queries just post :D
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damatrios wrote:Can I join? Warlord told me GDod had reserved a place for me.
Of course Damatrios we were expecting you I'll pop you in please see the map and rules on the previous page
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One last place available for a Zealous Parliamentarian Puritan with Paramilitary Power to Pursue Pundits of the Pony Prince and Pauper Potente
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NEW FLASH MAP version 5 Starting positions have been finalised apart from one more player to find and a dedicated thread (I'm working on that :roll: )

Please note additions and clarifications. I welcome any conflicts or ommisions as these guidelines are constantly developing and they belong to us all


Royalists.....................County..............................Colour
Doley50.......................Lancashire (34)..................... pink
TGM ..........................Shropshire (24) .....................light green
Awesum4 ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Cornwall (20).......................dark green
BrentBJ....................... Gloustershire (22)..................dark red
Lascar.........................Norfolk (16)..........................middle red
Kelen2........................Nottinghamshire(31)................yellow
Youngr........................ Rutlandshire (29)....................cream
Damatrois.................... County Down (48) ..................light grey

Parliamentarian...........County................................Colour
Warlord.......................Northumberland (39).................dark blue
Snugglebunnies..............E. Riding Yorkshire (36)..............darker middle bue
Ianiow........................Essex (14)..............................light blue
Kerry D........................Hampshire (4) ........................middle blue
LFDLM........................Buckinghamshire (8) ..................light purple (mauve)
Iandavidsmith...............Pembrokeshire (43)....................purple
Seaport...................... Ayreshire (45) .........................orange
Place open.................. Warwickshire (27).................... tangerine

GENERAL RULES
Each player starts with 1000 points
Each occupied county is worth 50 additional points. A player cannot cede a county to another either by negotiation or passing through.
You occupy a county by moving into it or claim it by winning a battle.
Once a faction have claimed an entire division of counties you receive an additional 100 points.The player that owns the most counties in a district receives the benefit. If a district has an equal number of counties owned by two in a faction they can decide who benefits.
If more than one force is fighting for a province the lowest casualities wins the county.
A force other than a flying column moves one county at a time
A force designated as a flying column (more cavalry, dragoons, detached musketeers, and light guns than infantry) can move two counties in one move.
You may only have one force in play unless points exceed 2000 points
You may play as an independent (by declaring yourself king or protector) or form alliances but only with your own side.
Players can join at any time when their are unclaimed counties
Players can opt out at any time and their provinces become “neutral” (ie: unclaimed)
Players points for battles by adding up the points from their claimed provinces
Same faction movement does not affect title to the county
Map and marked army position will be updated at the end of each month showing the counties in your chosen colour and the forthcoming battles for the month

MOVEMENT.........................................................................................TYPE OF BATTLE...............................TERRAIN
Two forces moving into a county................................................................Open battle.....................................Always Pot luck

If one force is already occupying a county.....................................................Defender decides..............................Defender choice unless one general occupies twice or more provinces = their choice

If a defender friendly force is adjacent to the county being attacked......................Reinforced battle for the defender......... Defender choice unless one general occupies twice or more provinces then their choice
[army pts total + extra 180pts reinforcements rounded up in favour of defender]

If an attacker friendly force is adjacent to the county being attacked.....................Reinforced battle for the attacker...........Attacker choice unless one general occupies twice or more provinces then their choice
[army pts total + extra 180pts reinforcements rounded up in favour of attacker]

If equal attacker & defender friendly forces adjacent to the county being attacked....Open battle......................................Pot luck unless one general occupies twice or more provinces = their choice

If more attacker or defender friendly forces adjacent to the county being attacked....Send flank force................................Pot luck unless one general occupies twice or more provinces = their choice
[army pts total + extra 180pts reinforcements rounded down]

Please note: If a challenge goes unanswered by the end of the month the county is automatically taken by the attacker issuing the challenge.

These changes actioned 3.5.17
1.A "flying column" is designated as any force where the combined total of units of cavalry detached musketeers, dragoons and light guns outnumber the pike and shot Hence, parliament could conceivably field a flying column (Yes, I've checked) . Royalists do not have to, but may choose to use the raiders list.
2. Any player, either side, can designate themselves as a flying column at anytime but must declare this when they post their move.
3. If you designate your move as a flying column and a battle results from a consequence of that move then the player must field a flying column force on the field.
4. Equal number of players on each side

Change Movement You claim a county if you pass through it (You do not have to remain in it for one turn)
Addition Same faction movement does not change county title
Addition London does not have a number it is just London and as a district entitles the occupier to an extra 50 pts (plus district bonus of 100 points)
Addition Owning a District The player that owns the most counties in a district receives the benefit. If a district has an equal number of counties owned by two in a faction they can decide who benefits.
Addition A player cannot cede a county to another either by negotiation or passing through, unless splitting counties for eliminated player /see eliminated player rule
Addition The side with a force bordering the county in which the battle takes place can choose the reinforcing size but if they have equal numbers of armies bordering the computer chooses.

These changes actioned 4.5.17

Addition If a player no longer owns any county they are eliminated from the game, unless another player in their faction can divide his territories equally to give him a recruiting base.
Addition When a player loses a battle must retreat. Hew cannot retreat into any enemy territory. He can only retreat into friendly territory. If he cannot retreat he is relocated to the nearest friendly territory. If there is more than one friendly territory option then it is by chance.
Addition Armies that are only 50 apart in strength are equal and fight at the size of the smaller army.

These changes actioned 5.5.17

Addition If two friendly armies move into the same province the force with the most points moves and the forces with least points remain stationary.
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This thread is now ended ... Please refer to ECW Campaign threads
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GDod wrote:
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damatrios wrote:Can I join? Warlord told me GDod had reserved a place for me.
Of course Damatrios we were expecting you I'll pop you in please see the map and rules on the previous page
Can I be Royalist?
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