my new alexanda army what does everyone think

alexandathegreat · Post by **alexandathegreat** » Mon Aug 25, 2008 10:04 am

Mac. Archers LF Average Drilled Unprotected Bow - - - 6 5 30
agrianian javerlinmen LF Superior Undrilled Unprotected Javelins Light Spear - - 6 5 30
skytian horse archers LH Average Undrilled Unprotected Bow - Swordmen - 4 10 40
eastern light horsemen LH Average Drilled Unprotected Javelins Light Spear - - 4 7 28
foot compainon HF Average Drilled Protected - Pikemen - - 8 6 48
foot compainon HF Average Drilled Protected - Pikemen - - 8 6 48
foot compainon HF Average Drilled Protected - Pikemen - - 8 6 48
Hoplites HF Average Drilled Protected - Offensive Spearmen - - 6 8 48
Hypasits HF Superior Drilled Protected - Pikemen - - 8 8 64
hoplites HF Average Drilled Protected - Offensive Spearmen - - 6 8 48
compainon cavarly CV Superior Drilled Armoured - Lancers Swordmen - 4 17 68
compainon cavarly CV Superior Drilled Armoured - Lancers Swordmen - 4 17 68
Agema CV Elite Drilled Armoured - Lancers Swordmen - 4 20 80
alexander IC - - - - - - C-in-C 1 80 80
troop commander TC - - - - - - - 2 35 70

marshalney2000 · Post by **marshalney2000** » Mon Aug 25, 2008 12:17 pm

I think I could break up this army nicely if I had a few units of LF and then pick of bits in detail.
John

MarkSieber · Post by **MarkSieber** » Mon Aug 25, 2008 1:22 pm

How would you use LF to break it up?

daleivan · Post by **daleivan** » Mon Aug 25, 2008 2:41 pm

FWIW I would make the Hypaspists MF. That gives you a solid BG for terrain as well as chasing off pesky skirmishing foot

Cheers,

Dale

expendablecinc · Post by **expendablecinc** » Mon Aug 25, 2008 3:41 pm

There are six asuperior agrianans which I would expect to he happy to lead the pike looking to charge inferior LF away.

petedalby · Post by **petedalby** » Mon Aug 25, 2008 3:46 pm

I'm looking at this list at the moment and it has loads of options.

Unfortunately your version appears to be illegal. You can only have 1 BG of Companions - you have 2.

If you take the Skythians you are after 328BC. Therefore you are limited to a max of 6 bases of hoplites - you have 12.

I'm up to version 3 on paper so far - too many choices!!

Have fun!

Pete

marshalney2000 · Post by **marshalney2000** » Tue Aug 26, 2008 4:12 pm

You do not have much lf which means that if I have quite a bit then i can drive yours away. The pike will then test every turn not to charge which means thta gradually your lines will become fragmented and split up.

alexandathegreat · Post by **alexandathegreat** » Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:19 pm

marshalney2000 wrote:You do not have much lf which means that if I have quite a bit then i can drive yours away. The pike will then test every turn not to charge which means thta gradually your lines will become fragmented and split up.

You don’t need quantity to win a battle I prefer troops that work together that’s how alexanda beat the Persian army of around 250,000 men with 35,000 men

marshalney2000 · Post by **marshalney2000** » Wed Aug 27, 2008 3:24 pm

Well if you did not want critical feedback then why ask. You may have a great many quality troops but if faced by several lf ave units of of for eample jls and bow then your agranians may struggle to stay in line and indeed then have to fall back behind your pike at which time the pike will be rolling not to charge my more numerous lf.
I have worked the tactic against Romas as well and then used my hf to pick off isolated units which charged forward too far.
As Stalin said, "Quantity has a quality of its own."

philqw78 · Post by **philqw78** » Wed Aug 27, 2008 5:57 pm

Why roll not to charge in that case? Charge anyaway. separation is usually not that bad and if you don't get chance to line up again any enemy that charge you must step forward up to 2MU to strike the trailing units anyway. So the line will, in effect mostly be intact unless there is a massive swing in dice rolls.

marshalney2000 · Post by **marshalney2000** » Wed Aug 27, 2008 6:21 pm

Well you can charge and indeed probably have to. It does however break up a battle line and scatters pike units anywhere from 1" to 5" away from each other. in their next turn the LF are back and the process starts again. you obviously have to fight the pike sometime but it is amazing how often you can catch individual units who have charged too far at a significant advantage or indeed have them expose their flank if you work at it hard enough.
To me the suggested Alex army albeit illegal in any case does not have enough LF or MF to protect the fighting troops particularly when their is terrain about.
It smacked to me of just stand there and I will roll over your scum with my quality troops and ignoring the fact that the enemy commander would have his own plan which could include mass skirmishing and utilising terrain.

alexandathegreat · Post by **alexandathegreat** » Thu Aug 28, 2008 5:26 pm

marshalney2000 wrote:Well you can charge and indeed probably have to. It does however break up a battle line and scatters pike units anywhere from 1" to 5" away from each other. in their next turn the LF are back and the process starts again. you obviously have to fight the pike sometime but it is amazing how often you can catch individual units who have charged too far at a significant advantage or indeed have them expose their flank if you work at it hard enough.
To me the suggested Alex army albeit illegal in any case does not have enough LF or MF to protect the fighting troops particularly when their is terrain about.
It smacked to me of just stand there and I will roll over your scum with my quality troops and ignoring the fact that the enemy commander would have his own plan which could include mass skirmishing and utilising terrain.

but eventually your troops will be run off the table plus seperation is not that bad my pikes got brokern up by roman foot next go i got my others in and was fine its the flanks that kill pikes