A "Pacific Corps" should be made

[HalfLifeExpert]

I know this is brought up a lot, but I think it is worth discussing more for a specific reason.

One of the commonly cited reasons as to why a "Pacific Corps" is not going to be done is because of Order Of Battle: Pacific being in existence, and concerns about infringing on it's sales and whatnot.

I don't think that is a valid reason anymore, as it is clear that OOB intends to cover the entire European War as well with its new content model, especially since the early blitzkriegs have been announced. That's fine for them. But if OOB is the reason Pacific Corps is not done than it is a clear double-standard, as OOB is freely marching into the territory of Panzer Corps.

Having tried OOB, the free steam version when they made that conversion, I didn't enjoy it. The gameplay was too clunky, and it hardly ran at all on the very same laptop that I have logged most of my 350+ hours of Panzer Corps on. It didn't even run that well on my gaming desktop that runs quite demanding games well.

I just wanted to say that if OOB is the reason for not doing a "Pacific Corps", than that is not a good reason, as OOB is doing the European War, so Panzer Corps should be allowed to do the Asia/Pacific theatre. It doesn't nessicarily have to be called Pacific Corps. I rather like the title "Panzer Corps: Marine Corps"

[RandomAttack]

+1! Not slamming OOB-- I bought it and just don't care for it (for reasons I have given on that forum). I too think a "Pacific Corps" is a GREAT idea that won't impact the OOB niche at all.

[BiteNibbleChomp]

This discussion seems to get raised quite a lot .

I think the delayed release of Soviet Corps (was going to be mid-2015, ended up early this year), shows what the devs have been saying occasionally - they don't have enough time to focus on everything, and the new product (Warhammer) is worth more focus than something that came out 5 years ago. Seems a bit like asking for more leaders to be added to Civ 5 today, even though Civ 6 is on the horizon.

There's always mods for those who need more content!

- BNC

[b52pilot1]

I agree 1000% that Panzer Corps should have a Pacific version. I've tried OOB, too, and it is a different game and is not as fun as the PanzerCorps games. I know the developers are busy, but hopefully, they are listening to the loyal customers that are begging for a Pacific Corps!

[goose_2]

I am down with this

[proline]

This would certainly be a lot of fun. in fact, even without Pacific Corps PzC has some great island hopping scenarios like Malta and the final battle in the Sealion campaign.

[bcnkor5]

I know this is brought up a lot, but I think it is worth discussing more for a specific reason.

One of the commonly cited reasons as to why a "Pacific Corps" is not going to be done is because of Order Of Battle: Pacific being in existence, and concerns about infringing on it's sales and whatnot.

I don't think that is a valid reason anymore, as it is clear that OOB intends to cover the entire European War as well with its new content model, especially since the early blitzkriegs have been announced. That's fine for them. But if OOB is the reason Pacific Corps is not done than it is a clear double-standard, as OOB is freely marching into the territory of Panzer Corps.

Having tried OOB, the free steam version when they made that conversion, I didn't enjoy it. The gameplay was too clunky, and it hardly ran at all on the very same laptop that I have logged most of my 350+ hours of Panzer Corps on. It didn't even run that well on my gaming desktop that runs quite demanding games well.

I just wanted to say that if OOB is the reason for not doing a "Pacific Corps", than that is not a good reason, as OOB is doing the European War, so Panzer Corps should be allowed to do the Asia/Pacific theatre. It doesn't nessicarily have to be called Pacific Corps. I rather like the title "Panzer Corps: Marine Corps"

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[robman]

+1 (or however many it is at this point). OOB has some great features, but it is clunky, visually busy, and--worst of all!--cannot be played on iPad. Resist the imperialist pretensions of Artistocrats and their petit bourgeois running dogs! We need more PzC content!

[sn0wball]

As much as I liked Pacific Corps, I think the PzC naval engine needs a complete rework to make Pazific Corps are viable game. For example, strategic bombers vs. capital ships completely screws up the equation of naval combat. Also, a destinction between carrier based aircraft and land based air craft and torpedo bombers. Unless aircraft are toned down, AA of ships would need to be improved, or adjacent AA ships should be able to protect other ships. The list goes on. In the end, I doubt that the AI is up to naval combat without specific scripting.

On the other hand, one could also set the focus on smaller land based action.

[HalfLifeExpert]

Some reworking for the Pacific War is a given of course. The land war in China is already doable. I think most of the operations where it was an amphibious assault on an island are already doable, with some reworking needed like the Strategic bombers you mentioned. Plus, strategic bombers proved to not be very effective against warships, as shown at Midway where the B-17s didn't score a single hit on the Japanese carrier force.

The main areas that would need work are naval engagements, especially aircraft carriers. But one could focus it more on the land and amphibious battles, while relegating the navy to a support role in game, which means no Coral Sea, Midway, Santa Cruz, Philippine Sea or Leyte gulf. I am honestly OK with that, this system was build for land combat.

I am more interested in the island battles and the war in China and Southeast Asia for this sort of game. Of course there should be a few alternate scenarios, Invasion of Hawaii, northern Australia are two that come to mind for Japanese side. The two phases of Operation Downfall, Olympic and Coronet, also come to mind for the US. All of those would be really tough challenges.

I am well aware of the challenges to reworking this game for the pacific. My main reason for making this thread was to point out that OOB existing is no longer a valid or justifiable reason for not doing a "Pacific Corps" , as that game is expanding to cover the European War. (although i rather like the names "Panzer Corps: Imperial Corps" for Japan and "Panzer Corps: Marine Corps" for the US)

[ElDude]

I would like to see Pacific Corp.

[bcnkor5]

I would like to see Pacific Corp.

Yes, +1

It would be very interesting, as it lacks address this conflict zone

[Ballermann]

I would like to see Pacific Corp.

I want it, too

[HalfLifeExpert]

Plus, having Japanese forces thrown into Soviet Corps makes it all too tempting to expand on them, and have them go up against US forces....

It also would be kind of cool to add them into the "British India" scenario of Afrika Korps

[terminator]

Panzer Corps Gold :
"Back when we released the U.S. Corps packs we told you they would be the last DLCs for the Panzer Corps series, but we never said that the path of Panzer Corps had come to an end. Millions of people enjoyed Panzer Corps in the last few years: it’s been a long and epic ride, but it’s not over yet."
So , no more DLCs

[ElDude]

Bummer!

[Scholomancer]

Panzer Corps Gold :
"Back when we released the U.S. Corps packs we told you they would be the last DLCs for the Panzer Corps series, but we never said that the path of Panzer Corps had come to an end. Millions of people enjoyed Panzer Corps in the last few years: it’s been a long and epic ride, but it’s not over yet."
So , no more DLCs

To me however, this statement tells me more about Panzer Corps II than a new DLC, or maybe a People's General. Say what you want about this game, I found it to be an excellent adaptation of the PG engine to modern warfare.

[HalfLifeExpert]

For A new game, im kind of hoping for "NATO Corps". Cold War Gone Hot, plus perhaps some historical conflicts like Arab-Israeli Wars.

[Scholomancer]

Yes, People's General is a fairly good take on modern units in a Panzer General Game Engine. I thought it second best of the whole General Series (after Panzer General, but before Star General and even Fantasy General.)

[RolanddeRonceveaux]

I'd like to see a Pacific Corps, either.

And also a "Korean Corps", but that's another story.