Britcon Runners and Riders

[philqw78]

.... and good to see you backing yourself. ....?

Nobody else will
My run down on the Medievalists tomorrow

[ney63]

My 2 pence

Dailami - 4 of these, they should get enough terrain, except against the Khazar and Palmyran. Should do well, especially Dino who has had more prcatice than any of them. If they do not get the terrain they become very dependent upon impact against the HF armies and unless very careful Tibetans and Khazar should roll them up
Irish - 3 of these. I really do not think they will perform well against the armies listed. Palmyran, Tibetan and Khazar will punish them if little terrain, as will the armies big on HF. They will need to push through terrain and try to gain there before the stuff they have in the open collapses
Pikes - 4 different types. Small tables suit them well and they should do at least as well as the Dailami, but they can suffer from lack of terrain troops, those they have ending up massively outnumbered in the terrain and then butchered.
Spears - Kyreneaen, Viking and Arabs. The arabs haven't got any armour and not enough lancers to fight against, pretty much the same for the Vikings, though their Huscarls will be very good. The Kyrenean will suffer at impact and they are all average. Don't think they will do well
Romans - Pete's LRR Providing Pete hasn't taken too many light troops these are a good bet
Spanish. Very reliant on terrain. Little armour. Need to win a lot of impacts
Lancers - Palmyran and Ostrogoth. Ostrogoth has won Britcon, so is a competition army unlike what Paul's short memory believes, but its not good on small tables. Neither can dismount. At least Palmyran can have steppes. Both will find it very tough against the pikes and anything that is using terrain well. Not enough Romans for the Palmyran to pick on and not enough room for the Ostrogoth to stretch his opponents
Post Romans - Paul got this right
Chinese. Needs a bit more room to get his cavalry to work, and no killer troops without that
Dismounting lancers - Tibetan and Khazar. If they don't get the terrain the want they just get off their horses. Khazar will get an extra BG. The amusing play here will be if they fight each other and who gets the choice to dismount first. Will both do well, but not that well
Spartacus - One cross each, line on the left

Hard to call a top 3 but: I'm more than happy with my army choice: Dino will be up there: its an unusual army for Pete Dalby, so he may take a bit to get going: Graham Briggs is a very good player and will make the best of his poor choice, whereas Armies Andy will get depressed with it: Dave Bannister knows his army well and has done well with it before, but people know its tricks now and it will be harder for him.
So head on the block
Me
Dino
GB

Lets see Phil i fear no one and will not get depressed its a fun good army and looking forward to maybe meeting your choice bring it on.
andy

[philqw78]

How did you know I was talking about you? A fair personality profile no doubt

[ney63]

Looks like we have a late entry in the Ancients pool to bring us up to 24 & 10. Happy days.

Correct its Brian Espie still waiting for his list will post it if and when i receive it.
Andy

[philqw78]

Irish - THE come and destroy me because I look soft army that isn't. Dave has used it a lot and is very successful with it. Is the earlier version as good in this period

Swiss - Not as good on the bigger tables but still very difficult to beat. If it is allowed to be stretched it will suffer badly and being a bit of a plodder can often fail to capitalise when it is winning on the bigger tables

Castillian - Tough army lots of Heavy Metal and has the lights to fill space and pressure the enemy to close gaps

Serbian - CHARGE. Dave's main tactic. IMO a good army (my main tactic as well?) One dimensional, but enough lancers to strike fear into all

Free Company - Small, may need to depend upon the enemy being complicit in their own destruction

LOT - Competition Army. certainly capable of winning and just as capable of running away so as not to be beaten. The knight heavy armies should take it down, but it can pick its point on the rest

Condotta - Unusual choice, but an improved army in V2. There are better knight armies, but few better drivers

Mayan - Was bloody awful last night. Might not get its ass kicked against the Irish. Glad the periods have evened up.


Top 3? The major players are Dave, Derek, Dave and Rob. But I reckon Pete Butler will be up there and Derek now has people aware of his skill so people will be more wary against him so
Dave
Peter
Rob
Not in any particular order

[Robert241167]

Have you got the brothers mixed up?

Paul is the No 1 not Derek.

Rob

[philqw78]

Have you got the brothers mixed up?

Paul is the No 1 not Derek.

Rob

D'oh

[philqw78]

Top 3? The major players are Dave, Paul, Dave and Rob. But I reckon Pete Butler will be up there and Paul now has people aware of his skill so people will be more wary against him so
Dave
Peter
Paul

Happy now Rob. Paul has a better army

[LordNytram]

Seeing as Phil Powell was less accurate than Ollie the Octopus here is the latest review....

Martyn Simpson Dailami
Yawwwwwwwn. I will enjoy all those civil wars in the first round. Martyn risks boom or bust but perhaps his list is different from the others.

So Mr Navigator........of all the Dailami in the comp, I get the "Yawwwwwwwn"!!! Just remember if we meet in competition I've got no reputation to lose...but if you lose to me I'll ensure you never forget

[ney63]

Here they are:
Early Period:

Andy Ellis Norse Irish
John Patrick Post Roman British
Chris Tofalos Later Ptolemaic
Steve Brown Dailami
Christopher Proudfoot dailami
Marco Baroni Viking
Phillip Jelly Arab Conquest
Steve Murton Norse Irish
Graham Carroll Palmyrian
Chad Pillinger Western Wei to early Tang Chinese
Graham Briggs Norse Irish
Peter Card Early Successor
Phil Powell Later Macedonian ( floater)
David Morrisson Khazar
Pete Dalby Late Republican Roman
Tony Parkin Ancient Spanish
David Putt Kyrenean Greek
Martyn Simpson Dailami
Paul Johnson Spartucus(slave Revolt)
Dino Monticoli Dailami
Graham Roberts Italian Ostrogoth
Paul Longmore Seleucid
David Bannister Tibetan
Brian espie Early successor
Late Period

David Fairhurst Later Anglo Irish
lynda Fairhurst Swiss
Peter Butler Medieval castillian
Paul Bartlett Medieval castillian
Dave Ruddock Later Serbian
Antony Leroy free Company
Jacques destremau Late ottoman Turk
Jon Akers Early Anglo Irish
Derek Bartlett Condotta Italian
Robert Tayler Late Ottoman Turk
Phil Powell Mayan ( Post Classical) Floater

Thats 23 in Early and 10 in late Mr Powell as volunteered to be Floater but as it stands we have odd!!!
Let The Banter Begin

Andy

Brian Espie Early Successor

Andy

[philqw78]

Something wrong there, Brian is actually using a competitive army

[navigator]

Although I do feel the medieval period is devalued somewhat by the absence of Albanians.......

Dave Ruddock managed a morale defeating 10 -10 against them last time out... and they have the evil eye over Robert too....

[spotteddog]

And here's me thinking you'd found a disciple for the Albanians I Phil P.
HH

[philqw78]

And here's me thinking you'd found a disciple for the Albanians I Phil P.
HH

I may be drunk, but I'd never be drunk enough to be a disciple of Paul's.

[navigator]

and that's why I am champion of Germany and Phil isn't !

For all other disciples and would be followers... I am gathering my flock unto me at, Friday, around 11pm onwards at the Retro Bar... for the price of a double brandy I will be available to dispense wisdom until the small hours... all welcome (but if you know any would be disciples of female disposition under 40.. they go to the front of the crowd)

[petedalby]

around 11pm onwards at the Retro Bar.

So you're expecting an early finish then?

[navigator]

... I think even Spartacus would struggle to make his battles last more than 5 hours....(especially if the romans had cut a few yards off the edges of his normal sized battlefields)....

[Caliph]

Something wrong there, Brian is actually using a competitive army

I'm not sure about that. Don't usually see "Brian" and "competitive" in the same sentence.

[petedalby]

... I think even Spartacus would struggle to make his battles last more than 5 hours....(especially if the romans had cut a few yards off the edges of his normal sized battlefields)....

Based upon previous years' experience I suspect some will.

[dave_r]

... I think even Spartacus would struggle to make his battles last more than 5 hours....(especially if the romans had cut a few yards off the edges of his normal sized battlefields)....

Based upon previous years' experience I suspect some will.

Yeah, but I bet that player wasn't as bad as Paul and they hadn't picked a crap army