Meanwhile, I wonder what it turns for the makers of OOB actually. Just to make money, this is as fast as possible and the stupid, the buyer, so I?
dozens errors Not only that at Marine Corps exist and to report this, they are also ignored (at least no messages are posted by responsible or the like), but it is a new game in spite of these shortcomings ... very expensive (14.99 euros ) ... brought out that more mistakes-bound is like the previous one.
Here the first major error (list will be expanded if necessary):
do not get 1. spoils in Mission Arctic Fox (conquest Kuolojärvi within 10 laps) Russian T-26 tanks as a flamethrower !!
2. Translations from the English to the German text does not exist in conquest Kuolojärvi (see photo)
3. Still Mission Arctic Fox, Airstrip no photo and English mission description (see additional image).
Now my question is how long we must wait for a patch with all fixes coming ... or it is important to report on another moneymaking here (so that my interview with the artist) ??
update:
Question to the developers, how do you get in the mssion Ladoga Karelia 41 the truck and destroy, if only with bombers without sight this must search first?
They also immediately so flee to start ... Mission not to meet. AND ENSURE should we spend MONEY ????
Zum besseren Verstehen und um Irrtümer zu vermeiden, dieser Text (Übersetzt mit Google) noch in Deutsch:
Mittlerweile frage ich mich, worum dreht es sich für die Macher von OoB eigentlich. Nur um Geldverdienen, dieses möglichst schnell und der dumme ist der Käufer, also ich?
Nicht nur dass bei Marine Corps duzende Fehler vorhanden sind und man diese meldet, sie werden auch ignoriert (zumindest werden keine Meldungen durch Verantwortliche gepostet oder ähnliches), sondern es wird trotz dieser Mängel ein neues Spiel ... sehr Teuer (14,99 Euro) ... rausgebracht, welches noch mehr Fehlerbehaftet ist wie das vorherige.
Hier die ersten wichtigen Fehler (Liste wird bei Bedarf erweitert):
1. Kriegsbeute in Mission Arctic Fox (Eroberung Kuolojärvi innerhalb von 10 Runden) russische T-26 Panzer als Flammenwerfer nicht bekommen!!
2. Übersetzungen aus den englischen in den deutschen Text nicht vorhanden bei Eroberung Kuolojärvi (siehe Foto) 
3. Immer noch Mission Arctic Fox, Airstrip kein Foto und englische Missionsbeschreibung (siehe weiteres Foto).
Nun meine Frage, wie Lange dürfen wir warten, bis ein Patch mit allen Fehlerbehebungen kommt ... oder ist es wichtiger, über weiteres Geldverdienen hier zu berichten (meine damit dieses Interview mit einem der Macher)??
Update:
Frage an die Entwickler, wie soll man in der Mssion Ladoga-Karelien 41 die LKW erwischen und vernichten, wenn man nur mit Bomber ohne Sicht diese erst einmal Suchen muss?
Außerdem fliehen sie sofort nach Start ... also Mission nicht zu erfüllen. UND DAFÜR soll man GELD ausgeben????
			
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				KeinGeneral
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[quote="KeinGeneral"]Meanwhile, I wonder what it turns for the makers of OOB actually. Just to make money, this is as fast as possible and the stupid, the buyer, so I?
dozens errors Not only that at Marine Corps exist and to report this, they are also ignored (at least no messages are posted by responsible or the like), but it is a new game in spite of these shortcomings ... very expensive (14.99 euros ) ... brought out that more mistakes-bound is like the previous one.
Here the first major error (list will be expanded if necessary):
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My answer: KeinGeneral, I understand your frustration but also thinks it's a great game that has much room and it is difficult to try everything, I'm still modifying the PanzerCorps because it has much you can modify and test such as the units.csv there are many types of possible confrontation between land / sea / air. If you give the reason that the creators of the game are a little careless with user requests. But I invite you to improve your game with future proposals and opinions in:
http://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtop ... 64&t=73212
			
			
									
						
										
						dozens errors Not only that at Marine Corps exist and to report this, they are also ignored (at least no messages are posted by responsible or the like), but it is a new game in spite of these shortcomings ... very expensive (14.99 euros ) ... brought out that more mistakes-bound is like the previous one.
Here the first major error (list will be expanded if necessary):
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My answer: KeinGeneral, I understand your frustration but also thinks it's a great game that has much room and it is difficult to try everything, I'm still modifying the PanzerCorps because it has much you can modify and test such as the units.csv there are many types of possible confrontation between land / sea / air. If you give the reason that the creators of the game are a little careless with user requests. But I invite you to improve your game with future proposals and opinions in:
http://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtop ... 64&t=73212
Re: More serious mistakes Winter War
My answer to bcnkor 2: I think your suggestions are beneath the point. The point is, this DLC is riddled with bugs and the developers don´t reply to bugs laid open. If ore if not the core game is a good game is of no interest in this post. The DLC Winter War has at least three occasions (and counting) where Scripted Events don´t work and those would be easy to detect if you play the game one time through with your latest game variant.
			
			
									
						
										
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Re: More serious mistakes Winter War
As with other small game design "companies" that have interested me, I often wonder who The Artistocrats are and whether they are "making a go" of OOB. By that I mean, whether they are making enough money to continue production.DirkW wrote:My answer to bcnkor 2: I think your suggestions are beneath the point. The point is, this DLC is riddled with bugs and the developers don´t reply to bugs laid open. If ore if not the core game is a good game is of no interest in this post. The DLC Winter War has at least three occasions (and counting) where Scripted Events don´t work and those would be easy to detect if you play the game one time through with your latest game variant.
One thing that I am fairly sure of is that OOB is not their "day job." I picture these guys doing this on the side, to make additional income, but I doubt that OOB pays enough to be a full-time job for any of the The Artistocrats.
So, we have to make allowances and have patience. Sure, I wish they were more responsive here and more diligent in squashing bugs. Sure, I wish they had not taken the easy road of modifying artillery potency to suit the latest DLC, Winter War, without having gone back to re-balance old DLC which is also affected by the latest 2.6.7 patch. (The key to that, folks, is to play the old DLC with version 2.4.8 - I've even gone so far as to have two iterations of OOB on my laptop for this purpose.)
But The Artistocrats are developing a really good game that has held my interest for quite a while. I, for one, will cut them some slack with the hope . . . the long-term requirement . . . that they eventually get there and continue to turn out a good product.
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I must say that the non-blocker bugs in OOB takes usually long time to fix, however they get fixed eventually. This means that the devs are listening to the reports, but they do a good job at prioritizing tasks. You must understand the business point of view. You have limited resources and it is up to you where you want to spend them. From the recent events, it's clear that their priority is to push the game content as much as possible to maintain a steady income flow. If they would focus on the bug-fixing they could end up with very bug-free game but huge delays in terms of new content. This could be a back breaking thing for a small development studio.
So, please be patient and always try to look on things from other perspectives as well.
			
			
									
						
							So, please be patient and always try to look on things from other perspectives as well.
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				KeinGeneral
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Re: More serious mistakes Winter War
So without someone to contact, on your feet, why should I add my wishes in this post?bcnkor2 wrote:KeinGeneral wrote:Meanwhile, I wonder what it turns for the makers of OOB actually. Just to make money, this is as fast as possible and the stupid, the buyer, so I?
dozens errors Not only that at Marine Corps exist and to report this, they are also ignored (at least no messages are posted by responsible or the like), but it is a new game in spite of these shortcomings ... very expensive (14.99 euros ) ... brought out that more mistakes-bound is like the previous one.
Here the first major error (list will be expanded if necessary):
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My answer: KeinGeneral, I understand your frustration but also thinks it's a great game that has much room and it is difficult to try everything, I'm still modifying the PanzerCorps because it has much you can modify and test such as the units.csv there are many types of possible confrontation between land / sea / air. If you give the reason that the creators of the game are a little careless with user requests. But I invite you to improve your game with future proposals and opinions in:
http://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtop ... 64&t=73212
It is yours, not mine. And it should be enough to post here in the forum !!
That I can edit the Unit.csv, I realize, but ... why should I do the work of the developer ??
I get no money for it, but pay MUST alkso I do not see it in, to make their work. They should finally do your job, without long waiting times !!!!
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Re: More serious mistakes Winter War
I downloaded the free WWII just to try out the Winter War scenario of Kollaa. I have played Battle Academy a lot so I am able to compare the two games. BA has far superior graphics although the game lacks some of the finer functionality of OoB. OoB graphics is something very old. As to Kollaa front the map resembles the actual terrain but some of the historical facts are missing. Firstly, the Finnish army had anti-tank guns, some artillery and an armoured train for support. One of the Finnish assets were snipers. Secondly, the Russians had extensive artillery and lots of old tanks like T26. The Russians used both for attacks. What also helped the Finns was that the infantry tactics of the Russians was based primarily on stupid frontal mass attacks against machine gun positions. One more thing was that the Finns made a lot of "procurement sorties" to fetch machine guns, ammunition and artillery from the Russian side.
I truly wish that some game developer would start working on the Russo-Finnish Wars, because they are very interesting showing that material supremacy does not always count. Unfortunately OoB seems to miss the essence of winter war.
			
			
									
						
										
						I truly wish that some game developer would start working on the Russo-Finnish Wars, because they are very interesting showing that material supremacy does not always count. Unfortunately OoB seems to miss the essence of winter war.
Re: More serious mistakes Winter War
Regarding the original post, as to #1: you get the reward by completing the mission within 35 turns, not conquering Kuolojärvi within 10.
			
			
									
						
										
						
					
					
