Solviet Flak not firing when attacked by Air???

[kverdon]

Playing Solviet Corps and I am seeing an issue where my SU-6 Flak units don't fire when THEY are attacked by air units. They fire just fine when adjacent units are attacked but not when they are attacked. Bug?

Comrad Kev

[IGOREUS1982]

I notice that to with SU-6. And one more strange thing my unit AA 85 mm then it is in gorizontal position dont counterattack airplanes, but german AA 88 do it, maybe it need fix devs?

[ThvN]

Playing Solviet Corps and I am seeing an issue where my SU-6 Flak units don't fire when THEY are attacked by air units. They fire just fine when adjacent units are attacked but not when they are attacked. Bug?

Comrad Kev

Hello Comrade Kev, I just checked and they work normally for me? Does this happen for you every time they are attacked?

What might be happening is that your SU-6 is suppressed and/or the weather is cloudy and it just misses with all of its attacks. I've seen it a few times while playing Soviet Corps, but it was only under those circumstances.

I notice that to with SU-6. And one more strange thing my unit AA 85 mm then it is in gorizontal position dont counterattack airplanes, but german AA 88 do it, maybe it need fix devs?

The Soviet 85mm AA gun in this game does not have any anti-air attack capability when it is in anti-tank (horizontal) position, unlike the German 88mm AA. So when it is in that mode it won't fire at air units that attack it, but now that you mention it, it seems logical that it would (seeing as it is mostly equivalent to the 88mm in the game).

[IGOREUS1982]

The Soviet 85mm AA gun in this game does not have any anti-air attack capability when it is in anti-tank (horizontal) position, unlike the German 88mm AA. So when it is in that mode it won't fire at air units that attack it, but now that you mention it, it seems logical that it would (seeing as it is mostly equivalent to the 88mm in the game).

Thnx for answer, with 85 mm now all clear for me

[kverdon]

Hmmmmmm......

I have only seen it happen twice and, as I remember, those were the only times I have seen the Flack units attacked by air, the units they are protecting are usually attacked instead. I don't see them fire and miss, I don't see a firing animation or hear them fire. They just sit motionless and take the attack.THANKS,

Comrad Kev

[Rork]

Just found this thread and thought it might be a good idea to bring to your attention a possible bug.
I haven't had the problem described by the OP, but I noticed that sometimes, for no discernible reason, the AA units can't always target all enemy air units in range. However, if the AA moves, then all air units in range can be targeted. This, of course, happens on your turn; on the enemy turn, AA works as normal.
I'm currently playing SC on Field Marshal, no cheats used.

[robman]

Just found this thread and thought it might be a good idea to bring to your attention a possible bug.
I haven't had the problem described by the OP, but I noticed that sometimes, for no discernible reason, the AA units can't always target all enemy air units in range. However, if the AA moves, then all air units in range can be targeted. This, of course, happens on your turn; on the enemy turn, AA works as normal.
I'm currently playing SC on Field Marshal, no cheats used.

Not a bug. To switch between move and shoot modes, toggle the air/ground button.

[Rork]

Not a bug. To switch between move and shoot modes, toggle the air/ground button.

I'm afraid I don't understand what you're saying. There's an AA unit with two enemy air units in range; it can shoot at one but not at the other; if I move it, it can shoot at both of them - makes no sense.
Toggling the air/ground button toggles doesn't do a thing, not to mention that not all AA units can be toggled as such.

[Aloo]

Not a bug. To switch between move and shoot modes, toggle the air/ground button.

I'm afraid I don't understand what you're saying. There's an AA unit with two enemy air units in range; it can shoot at one but not at the other; if I move it, it can shoot at both of them - makes no sense.
Toggling the air/ground button toggles doesn't do a thing, not to mention that not all AA units can be toggled as such.

Switch the map view from ground to air not the units role.

[Rork]

Switch the map view from ground to air not the units role.

Doesn't work, it was the first thing I tried. Besides the targeted air units were alone in their hex and targeting worked on a hex with ground and air units in it.
I daresay I tried a lot of solutions, including reloading or recreating the moves. I think that this can be reproduced even for a hotseat game. This, ahem, "feature" doesn't happen on a regular basis, but when it does the only thing that works is moving the AA unit. How is this not a bug?

[hs1611]

It's this button robman and Aloo were talking about:

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That is a fairly frequent doubt.

[Rork]

It's this button robman and Aloo were talking about:

http://prntscr.com/a84ncf

That is a fairly frequent doubt.

Yes, well, must be my English. The button doesn't work, only moving the AA unit works - there, is that plain enough?

[Rork]

A similar situation occured and the button worked, so mea culpa. However, there were times when it didn't worked; should I run again into any such situation, I'll keep the save.
Just a fleeting thought though: this is not normal and such a thing never happened in any of SSI's five-star general series. I still say that this is a bug that should be fixed.

[Wildthing]

Is it possible, that one aircraft has a ground unit in the same hex (so the hex is blocked for the moving flak)? The game alows you to move first and shoot later (ground view) or shoot first and move later (air mode).

Thats why i use the toggle button. Its usefull, if the move will be affected by ohter events in the same turn.

If you dont have a ground unit "under" the shootable aircraft, tha i have no idea.

[Rork]

If you dont have a ground unit "under" the shootable aircraft, tha i have no idea.

Nope, no ground unit there, so yea, no idea either...

[BiteNibbleChomp]

The Flak not firing is caused by an ability for the flak to move into the tile that it is trying to shoot at: the engine prefers the movement option. To fix, simply select the flak, then press the Air/ground view button. You should be able to shoot at the plane then.

- BNC