Has anyone tried Armypainter Quickshade?

flameberge · Post by **flameberge** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:50 pm

Has anyone tried Armypainter Quickshade? Though its pretty expensive the pictures on their website look pretty good but after all they are trying to sell a product. I was interested in any comments fellow gamers who have actually used the stuff have about it.

Oige1be · Post by **Oige1be** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 5:44 pm

I've used it on 15mm Gauls, the result is great, but don't believe the dip and shake. What I do is, Dip, Shake and then use a brush to remove excess fluid.
I remove between the legs on the shield, ...,
Also the cans really s##k, the open fine, but I had to change the can afterwards because it wou. I use the strong tone for nude and Gauls in tunic, the dark tone I'll use for armored Gauls.
Also once dry, the figures have a gloss, where I like my figures mat

Greetings

Christophe
Belgium

nikgaukroger · Post by **nikgaukroger** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:10 pm

Because it ...

Wouldn't shut?

Thanks for the tip about the gloss finish. I'm going to give it a go on my new 28mm stuff and so I'll need some matt spray to go over it.

Redpossum · Post by **Redpossum** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:45 pm

Perfect example of what I love about this community.

Flamberge asks a question about a specific product. Less than an hour later, Christophe has an answer with the voice of experience, giving a good evaluation and not one but two important tips (have a brush and a spare can handy before you start? That's vital information that could save a minor disaster.)

And as a bonus, Nik wanted to know about this also.

Awesome, guys. Simple and no big deal in one way, and totally awesome in another.

gavin · Post by **gavin** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:56 pm

Oige1be wrote:I've used it on 15mm Gauls, the result is great, but don't believe the dip and shake. What I do is, Dip, Shake and then use a brush to remove excess fluid.
I remove between the legs on the shield, ...,
Also the cans really s##k, the open fine, but I had to change the can afterwards because it wou. I use the strong tone for nude and Gauls in tunic, the dark tone I'll use for armored Gauls.
Also once dry, the figures have a gloss, where I like my figures mat

Greetings

Christophe
Belgium

Is there any chance you can post some pics of the minis please?????

flameberge · Post by **flameberge** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 4:37 am

gavin wrote:
Oige1be wrote:I've used it on 15mm Gauls, the result is great, but don't believe the dip and shake. What I do is, Dip, Shake and then use a brush to remove excess fluid.
I remove between the legs on the shield, ...,
Also the cans really s##k, the open fine, but I had to change the can afterwards because it wou. I use the strong tone for nude and Gauls in tunic, the dark tone I'll use for armored Gauls.
Also once dry, the figures have a gloss, where I like my figures mat

Greetings

Christophe
Belgium
Is there any chance you can post some pics of the minis please?????

If you go to http://www.thearmypainter.com/ you can find lots of pictures. I asked about the product because I wanted to know if the figures actually look as good as the pictures show.
I figured it would give a gloss coat but I have plenty of matte varnish lying around. I normally gloss coat my figures first before matte varnishing over them anyway. If this stuff works out I can skip the gloss varnish stage. Unfortunately I might have to wait a while to try the stuff out because the warstore is out of stock.

Strategos69 · Post by **Strategos69** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:38 am

I have not used Armypainter Quickshade, but a product whixh is based in the same principles and gives very similar results. In Spanish it is called "betún de Judea" and my dictionary says that it is translated as "asphalt". It's liquid, brown, and must be diluted with turpentine (make sure you use a type of turpentine that it does not affect the peinture). I have to use the brush also to remove the excess of the product. When it gets dry (24 hours later) I get off some of the excess with the brush and some turpentine. Finally you have to varnish, so you can decide wether you want it gloss or matt (the results with this product are rather matt). Here you have some examples, in the gallery shown above, of my Carthaginians and DAK:

http://fieldofglory.free.fr/picture.php ... ategory/30

http://misminis.blogspot.com/

I like this technique because the results of lights and shadows are very smooth.

Oige1be · Post by **Oige1be** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:03 am

These are my Gauls on a stick

nicofig · Post by **nicofig** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:09 pm

There are some pictures here for 25 mm :

http://stefigs.blogspot.com/

philbagnall · Post by **philbagnall** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:11 pm

Everyone who I know using Army Painter on small figures tends to brush it on rather than dip the figure into the can - more control over how much gets on. On the Warlord Games website forums theres quite a lot of comments and pictures around of the stuff in use:
http://www.warlordgames.co.uk
The figures I have seen certainly do get a nice basic shade effect (although not as good as layering if you're after that "professional" look) and certainly are glossy; I understand that Army Painter now also sells a matt varnish spray which is on a par with Testors Dullcote for those of us this side of the pond who can't find the fabled stuff but again have no personal experience to back this up

For myself I'm using the "magic wash" of 50/50 water and Klear acrylic floor polish with added Winsor & Newton peat ink for a slightly less scary varnish/shade effect; this too needs a matt coat to knock the shine down (I use the Miniature Paints [formerly Ral Partha?] brush-on stuff at the moment)

Regards
Phil

Oige1be · Post by **Oige1be** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:10 pm

Before I knew Army Painter, I used a diluted Airbrush paint, but I like the result of Army Painter better, and quicker.
I'm a gamer, painting is something that needs to happen, before I can play with my figures.

nikgaukroger · Post by **nikgaukroger** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:10 pm

Previously I've used Windsor & Newton ink (Peat Brown) but have splashed out on a tin of Strong Tone to give it a go as I suspect it'll be better than ink on 28mm figs.

marco · Post by **marco** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:20 pm

first one question :

do you use water to dilute the quickshade ?

fror me it's look similar to the product i use : X19 or smoke from tamya with a bit of water
you can see the result there :
http://www.fieldofglory.fr/spip.php?breve79

if you know some other product...

marco

MadBanker · Post by **MadBanker** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:45 pm

I am using it right now for my new Late Seleucid army and I am quite pleased with the result... Though I second the advice of brushing it rather than dipping, especially on 15mm minis (you don't want too much of the stuff to remain).
I am using dark tone for the whole army (because it gives a feeling of unity) and it looks nice even on the psiloi with light coloured clothing or lots of skin visible.

Answer to Marco: You don't have to dilute the quickshade, just apply it as it is. It is not water based, to clean the brush I use "white spirit" or turpentine.

ScottS · Post by **ScottS** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 5:56 pm

Strategos69 wrote:

Beautiful work!

If those shadows are the result, may have to try this.

rickf · Post by **rickf** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 10:46 pm

I got in trouble for saying this at Warlords stand at Partizan, but all quick shade really is, wait for it, its furniture varnish!!. Go to B+Q, Focus etc and theres tins of the stuff, I pay about £4 a tin and it ranges from clear (matt, satin or gloss) to very dark (good for brown horses) medium pine is a good average one. The fantasists at Games workshop have just brought out a very good range of washes, I trialled them last night with some Celts and they are good.
Rick

flameberge · Post by **flameberge** » Sat Jul 19, 2008 4:44 am

rickf wrote:I got in trouble for saying this at Warlords stand at Partizan, but all quick shade really is, wait for it, its furniture varnish!!. Go to B+Q, Focus etc and theres tins of the stuff, I pay about £4 a tin and it ranges from clear (matt, satin or gloss) to very dark (good for brown horses) medium pine is a good average one. The fantasists at Games workshop have just brought out a very good range of washes, I trialled them last night with some Celts and they are good.
Rick

This wouldn't surprise me. I have often wondered if wood stain would work but have never actually tried it.

ejacobs · Post by **ejacobs** » Sat Jul 19, 2008 5:18 am

So of the woodstain varieties, what would make up light, medium, and dark shades?

And how does this stuff work? Just paint the primary colors, wash with the varnish/shade, and done? Do they require any further protective clear coating?

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nikgaukroger · Post by **nikgaukroger** » Sat Jul 19, 2008 7:10 am

All these things whether the Army Painter stuff or Ronseal seem to be used in the same way. You paint you figure fairly basically - block colours with minimal or no shading - and then you apint the stuff on which adds shading in effect.

Most people then seem to give the figures a light coating of matt varnish or equivalent as the shading coat usually comes out gloss. And that's it.

nikgaukroger · Post by **nikgaukroger** » Sat Jul 19, 2008 7:13 am

Well just after I typed the above my order of the Army painter stuff arrived so looks like I'll be giving it a go today

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Has anyone tried Armypainter Quickshade?

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