Strange diplomacy results

Sovereignty is a turn-based fantasy strategy game for the PC. It combines a kingdom management campaign game with a general's level tactical battle game.

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Dunadd
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Strange diplomacy results

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NOTE: Please don't take offence here, not criticising as i know this must be a really, really hard thing to write rules for AI to follow, with so many variables involved. Just giving feedback on what i found playing EA 1.9

Playing as Sonneneve, I've never been at war with Ariselle and have no diplomatic deals with anyone who has actually fought against Ariselle either. Jotland is at war with Ariselle and has taken one of its provinces. Now Ariselle and all its allies (Myrmont etc) are "enraged" at me for no apparent reason (Ariselle declared war on me for no apparent reason, then i killed the invading army, that's the only reason i can think of, which doesnt explain the initial invasion).

When i look at relations with Ariselle it lists penalties for 'occupied province', 'annexed province', 'annexed capital'. I've never occupied any of Ariselle's provinces - and the ones of mine it occupied were inside the original borders of Sonneneve for the start of the game. Only capital i've annexed was Khazoth's.

Myrmont etc all list the same three things 'occupied province' , 'annexed province', 'annexed capital'. The third one i could sort of understand based on how 1.9 described diplomacy , but the first two not at all - can't be that i've annexed someone else's province or they'd be mad at almost every kingdom in the game, nor occupied same reason. Seems like the AI players for them think i've annexed their province when actually Jotland has. I had a non-aggression pact with Jotland, but that ended long before Jotland invaded them.

and most strange of all it happened while i was annexing provinces of Hadrigel, which is Myrmont and Ariselle's arch rival.

P.S after playing Sonneneve looking forward a bit more to 1.9 - still fun, but very hard when i can't even wipe out Khazoth or the bunch of liches, evil spirits and Undead in Palemoor without lots of good and neutral kingdoms going apeshit and invading me for supposed genocide
Breca
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Re: Strange diplomacy results

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Ariselle has a special rule called "Balance of Power Politics."

They will watch for the rise of the first continental power and then bring the weight of their alliances against that first power. This is particularly true of any power that rivals Ariselle's naval superiority. It will not tolerate any threat to its naval superiority.
Dunadd
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Re: Strange diplomacy results

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That's interesting and i like it, but elves can't build ships at all, i had no armies on boats at sea, and i'm not even a Major Power.
Breca
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Re: Strange diplomacy results

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Ok that sounds like something else then, possibly a bug.

We've doing quite a lot of overhaul of the diplomacy in EA 2.0, so it may resolve itself with that patch. When that releases, let us know if you see it happen again. Also it would be helpful if you could set aside and send the saved game so that we can see exactly what is happening in your game.

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Dunadd
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Re: Strange diplomacy results

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Any idea what folder the Saved games are in? ( i know how to find games installed from steam, but sometimes saves are in i think my docs folder or something)
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Re: Strange diplomacy results

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My Documents\Sovereignty\ contains all user data for the game, including saved games.
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Re: Strange diplomacy results

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Thanks - what email address should i send it to?
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