General tips for a new guy

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TheJay13
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Re: General tips for a new guy

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Ok so another question (sorry I have so many)

What is the difference between horse, light horse, determined horse, and cavalry

I seem to remember light horse not lowering morale with flank charges but anything else can.

So since arkebusiers are listed as horse can they flank and rear charge with effect or are they still counted as skirmish cav.
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Re: General tips for a new guy

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TheJay13 wrote:Ok so another question (sorry I have so many)

What is the difference between horse, light horse, determined horse, and cavalry

I seem to remember light horse not lowering morale with flank charges but anything else can.
That is correct, light horse don't drop the morale of non-light troops with flank charges. (They do drop the morale of light troops).

Horse, Determined Horse and Cavalry are partly legacy classifications from the Field of Glory: Renaissance tabletop miniatures rules. However, there isn't as much difference between them in Pike and Shot as there is in the tabletop game.

Horse and Cavalry are pretty much exactly the same in Pike and Shot. (In FOGR Cavalry can evade, but Horse can't, but neither can evade in P&S).

The main (only?) difference between horse/cavalry and determined horse is that Determined Horse count as shock troops (because their tactical doctrine is more aggressive). The effect of this is that enemy mounted troops cannot break off from them, unless they (the ones who want to break off) charged the Determined Horse in the first place.

One of the disadvantages of Kurassiers is that they are Horse, and hence enemy mounted troops that they beat in close combat can break off from them, giving them a reprieve. The reason for this is that Kurassiers (and other troops classified as Horse) tried to maintain tight deep formations, so would not follow up so aggressively as Determined Horse, who adopted shallower less rigid formations.
So since arkebusiers are listed as horse can they flank and rear charge with effect.
Correct.
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Re: General tips for a new guy

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Question re Determined Horse v Cavaliers.
Situation, A unit of NMA Determined Horse, superior, Impact Pistol, were in an enclosure; on the other side of the hedge ( obstacle) in open terrain was a unit of Royalist Cavaliers, superior, Impact Mounted.
The Determined horse charged the Cavaliers and had an advantage.

Question: Does the Impact Pistol POA count in non open terrain ?

Do Cavaliers lose the Impact Mounted POA when charged by others from non open terrain?

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Re: General tips for a new guy

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Warlord wrote:Question re Determined Horse v Cavaliers.
Situation, A unit of NMA Determined Horse, superior, Impact Pistol, were in an enclosure; on the other side of the hedge ( obstacle) in open terrain was a unit of Royalist Cavaliers, superior, Impact Mounted.
The Determined horse charged the Cavaliers and had an advantage.

Question: Does the Impact Pistol POA count in non open terrain ?


Yes. See the impact POAs chart in section 11.2.1 of the manual. Lancers and Impact Mounted capabilities lose their POAs in non-open terrain, Impact Pistol don't. The logic of this is that the lancers and impact mounted rely entirely on momentum for their impact effect, but Pistols rely on the shock effect of a point-blank volley.
Do Cavaliers lose the Impact Mounted POA when charged by others from non open terrain?
Yes, if the chargers are still in the Non-Open terrain. Any combat between a unit in non-open terrain and a unit in open-terrain counts as in non-open-terrain, but if the terrain was disordering terrain, the unit outside the terrain will only be disordered if it is the one attacking.

Note that if the Determined Horse were not Superior, their POA would be canceled by the Cavaliers Impact Mounted capability anyway. So in that case, neither side would get POA.
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Re: General tips for a new guy

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Thanks for that RBS
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