To be even-handed...

bignic · Post by **bignic** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 9:55 pm

Loved the Late Roman (Dominate) list. It is my OTA.

All my dreams came true. A plethora of options. A yardstick by which other lists can be measured.

A bunch of supporting psiloi/light foot disappeared in transition from the DBM list, but most adherents knew from credible sources that the potential 1 base to 1 base ratio was wrong anyway so entered into any purchasing decisions on an informed basis. As Nik said - just paint more infantry for them to support

cheers
Nick

timmy1 · Post by **timmy1** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 5:41 am

'OTA' - what mean?

philqw78 · Post by **philqw78** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:43 am

One True Army

nikgaukroger · Post by **nikgaukroger** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 6:37 pm

The real OTA is, of course, Burgundian Ordonnance - IIRC the phrase was coined for that army by Ken Blackley the best part of 10 years ago on the DBM mailing list (Stanford days for those old enough ...)

stevoid · Post by **stevoid** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:36 pm

I believe that to be a OTA the army needs to have been in the single-book of lists WRG published many moons ago. About 50 of them approx IIRC.
Steve

bignic · Post by **bignic** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 9:00 pm

Yep, there were 40 lists if I remember.
The Japanese list was either 3 or 4 lines long.

Late Romans had a page and could have up to 130 figs of legionarii, and pretty much more than they would ever need of anything they might ever want.

In contrast, virtually all of the Aurelianic/Middle Imperial list was prescribed. By the time you had bought the compulsory stuff you only had chump change to buy anything else.

We have come a long way in 2+ decades...

Good times

cheers
Nick

nikgaukroger · Post by **nikgaukroger** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 10:18 am

stevoid wrote:I believe that to be a OTA the army needs to have been in the single-book of lists WRG published many moons ago. About 50 of them approx IIRC.
Steve

Not a definition I've heard of, but then again I've been immersed in DBM for the past decade so if it was used outside of that sphere I'll have missed it

stevoid · Post by **stevoid** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:13 pm

nikgaukroger wrote:
stevoid wrote:I believe that to be a OTA the army needs to have been in the single-book of lists WRG published many moons ago. About 50 of them approx IIRC.
Steve
Not a definition I've heard of, but then again I've been immersed in DBM for the past decade so if it was used outside of that sphere I'll have missed it

Yes, there was ancient gaming before DBM

Steve

Draka · Post by **Draka** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:20 pm

There was even ancient gaming before WRG .... <Gasp>

hammy · Post by **hammy** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:10 pm

Draka wrote:There was even ancient gaming before WRG .... <Gasp>

Well I started playing WRG ancients 33 years ago, it might have been 34. 3rd edition 25mm and I was commanding the right wing of a Viking army.

rbodleyscott · Post by **rbodleyscott** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:59 pm

hammy wrote:
Draka wrote:There was even ancient gaming before WRG .... <Gasp>
Well I started playing WRG ancients 33 years ago, it might have been 34. 3rd edition 25mm and I was commanding the right wing of a Viking army.

I started 37 years ago with London Wargames Section Ancient Rules. My first ever battle was the Battle of Pelennor Fields.

However, I soon switched to WRG Ancients 2nd edition (with amendments).