Sherman Jumbo?

[Boarspear]

In Leyte Gulf I added a Jumbo tank. It won't move. Maybe it's because I moved the tank into a swamp. Or is it something else, because it seems to have no movement allowance:

(see attached screenshot)

[gunnergoz]

I'm not that far along in the campaign and am a bit surprised to see the Jumbo in the Pacific since historically they never got there, but then that's what games are for, in part to play what-if. Anyway, a zero movement allowance sounds right if the thing is stuck in a swamp. The Jumbos were so much heavier than regular Shermans that they needed to have the duckbill track extensions welded on permanently in in an effort to reduce ground pressure. It only partly alleviated the problem. Jumbos pretty much had to stay on hard surfaces. So, if you ask me, the game seems to be spot on as to this one tank anyway.

[zakblood]

The use of M4A3E8 75mm would preferably against the Japanese, because the japanese tanks possessed less armour that German tanks. The 75mm shell penetrated the Japanese tanks with relative ease and his projectile HE was more effective against fortifications than the 76mm.

Due to their late date of manufacture, and average four to five month (factory acceptance to combat issue) shipping times, very few M4A3(75)W with HVSS were shipped overseas during WW II. They had been processed and sealed for direct shipment to the Pacific, in the event they were needed for the Invasion of Japan.

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[gunnergoz]

The use of M4A3E8 75mm would preferably against the Japanese, because the japanese tanks possessed less armour that German tanks. The 75mm shell penetrated the Japanese tanks with relative ease and his projectile HE was more effective against fortifications than the 76mm.

Due to their late date of manufacture, and average four to five month (factory acceptance to combat issue) shipping times, very few M4A3(75)W with HVSS were shipped overseas during WW II. They had been processed and sealed for direct shipment to the Pacific, in the event they were needed for the Invasion of Japan.

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Your point is? The M4A3E8 and the M4A3(75)W with HVSS are not the same as the Sherman Jumbo. The Jumbo was an M4A3 (termed the M4A3E2,) an assault tank with additional armor on to the hull front and sides and with a thicker turret. It was intended to be a sort of point tank in the ETO, capable of better standing up to German antitank weapons. Only about 250 were produced and all went to the ETO.

[zakblood]

well all i know is the E stood for experimental, and was different from the ones patton had altered / up gunned and re armoured etc, if it wasn't there, it shouldn't be in the OOB either

[gunnergoz]

Actually, the E was not for "experimental" and merely implied an evolutionary change to the basic design. The army's WW2 nomenclature system was very confusing, obscure and often repetitive, causing much confusion, e.g. there was an M-1 rifle, an M-1 carbine, M-1 gas mask, etc, etc. Think of it this way: "M" was for basic model; "A" (sometimes "B") was for a major revision of the basic model; and "E" was for a further refinement of that model and version. Thus you have the example of the M4A3E8 being a production late model M4A3 Sherman that was further refined in its E8 iteration with HVSS suspension: it was produced in great numbers and was very common in the post-war period - definitely not an experimental one-off prototype.

[Longasc]

There are supposedly also M26 Pershings available for purchase later on.

In general apparently everything that was available at the time was added for purchase, regardless how common or uncommon it was in the Pacific theatre.
Panzer General also had the B29 for purchase despite only 3 being stationed in England for "show" purposes. They were never used in Europe. Not to mention all the late war Nazi superfighters and stuff that never made it past a few prototypes.

I am also torn about this decision. Some people might like it, others would definitely prefer it as historically accurate as possible in this regard, too.

[zakblood]

might be in just for modders, but tbh i can't remember, but to me it's your choice if you pick them or not, if you want historic then don't, if you don't mind like me, then do

[Jagon]

I didn't choose the Jumbo upgrade because it had a dash where the movement number was supposed to be. Just looked in the units file and there are no movement points, line-of-sight, cost or supply numbers for the Jumbo. Bug, me thinks.

[Bradley62]

Looking in the editor I thought I saw a Tiger I?

[Falke_MatrixForum]

Looking in the editor I thought I saw a Tiger I?

The japanese have a Chance to get one