When did you land on the moon?

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Re: When did you land on the moon?

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Gemini EOR? I just looked at that, it's awful! You've got the Gemini itself to research, though that can be pretty good by the time you start the programme, but there's also the Gemini service module, the lunar lander, and TWO spacesuits. Most of these things start at 3%, and every mission uses all of them, so you get little carryover from other programmes and can't flight test them piece-by-piece like you can with Apollo. A terrible option.

Gemini DA is pretty easy though, just a few pieces of equipment with good carryover from others. Just landed on the Moon in 1967.3 on normal difficulty.
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Re: When did you land on the moon?

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Gemini EOR? I just looked at that, it's awful! You've got the Gemini itself to research, though that can be pretty good by the time you start the programme, but there's also the Gemini service module, the lunar lander, and TWO spacesuits. Most of these things start at 3%, and every mission uses all of them, so you get little carryover from other programmes and can't flight test them piece-by-piece like you can with Apollo. A terrible option.

Gemini DA is pretty easy though, just a few pieces of equipment with good carryover from others. Just landed on the Moon in 1967.3 on normal difficulty.
Don't worry, there will probably be a re-balance of those Gemini Lunar Missions at some point. I agree that Gemini DA is a bit simple for now. :wink:
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Re: When did you land on the moon?

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So I've been playing the US and Soviet campaigns, on Hard difficulty.

1st Moon landing was as NASA with Gemini EOR in Q1 1972
2nd was as Nasa with Apollo in Q1 1971 as well
3rd was as Soviets wwith L-3 Soyuz/LK Lunar landing in Q3 1972
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Re: When did you land on the moon?

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Trying to reach the Moon in Q4 1964 (something amazing), I have improved my mark: with Nasa, landing on the moon in Q3.1966
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Re: When did you land on the moon?

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Beat this : USSR Victory (Soyuz LOK/LK Lander) 1970.Q1/Q2, Hard Mode :)

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I did land the Lunokhod twice :wink:
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Re: When did you land on the moon?

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Finally! -- Q3 1964 :)

@ ladias. Q2 1967 with the Gemini EOR is very impressive. The Direct program is much less complicated. EOR has several extra parts.

UPDATE: Q2 1964.
Q1 may be possible, but I had to grab my notebook on this one. I don't think it's possible to land on the moon in 1963 when Kennedy was alive. (If it is, it shouldn't be.) :)

UPDATE! UPDATE!
Q1 1964 - I still think just one more season... :)
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Re: When did you land on the moon?

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Kennedy was assassinated on November 22, 1963... That's well into Q4.

I just landed on the moon at the end of Q3 or the beginning of Q4... Kennedy saw me land on the Moon! :)
I don't think this can be streamlined any more.

I'm not sure why it says 9 missions. I only flew 7:

Explorer I Extended - Thorable
Lunar Flyby - Thorable
Gemini Orbital Flight - Titan
Gemini Orbital EVA and Docking Duration II - Titan
Explorer Regular - Saturn V
Explorer Regular - Saturn V
Moon Landing - Gemini Direct Assent

Also, nobody retired or resigned. I fired all those people. :)
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Re: When did you land on the moon?

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That's insane! How did you afford it?
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Re: When did you land on the moon?

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I play on Normal, but I should move to hard.

Q1 SET - Train the best 90+ learners, fire the rest. Hire the next best.
Q2 Build Astrronaut Center
Q3 Build Mission Control and Upgrade SET
Q4 Hire everyone 90+ and look for a talented exception (88 or 89)

The reason I do it this way is so that I can get to the next quarter and hire the Best. This is where I thin out the expensive people and keep my costs low. I want at least 3 astronauts and will go up to 7 but usually don't. I can always shop around down the road for people. I build the Rocket Assembly later so I save on on the maintenance. Q3 of the first year or Q2 of the second. Somewhere I'll upgrade and buy the Titan program in the first budget season. Remember I'm training for the direct mission all along. When I purchase Gemini, I had over 20,000. This is mainly due to stockpiling and low expenses. I close programs immediately when they are done and if I'm confident, I'll close them after schedule, but before launch.

The biggest thing is train using continous. Select your personel wisely and be very careful with the Rocket Assembly it can be very expensive early in terms of money and very costly in terms of time if you are late.

It may be possible to beat my record, but you'll need luck and a lot of planning.

Here's the optimal MC: 4 Trajectory, 4 Mission Ops, 2 Spacecraft Systems, 2 Crew and Payload, and 1 Propulsion.
I train my Mission Ops to have One good at Propulsion, Two good at Trajectory and the last Spacecraft You want the back up Propulsion in case you want to Launch an Explorer Mission and let your Gemini stars train in the background. You can also use the backup propulsion to launch a Lunar Flyby as a Saturn V Test.

When switching to the Gemini Direct, I open the Earth program and close the Regular Gemini program. I do very few building upgrades.

I hope this helps you. :)
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Re: When did you land on the moon?

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On Hard... Q2 1965
I did it basically the same as earlier, but had to test the Saturn V more. The extra seasons allowed me to afford the Uncrewed Lunar Pass to test the landing vehicle and another go with the Saturn V.

Without having employees leave, or the year with only one launch pad,it can probably be done in Q4 1964 and perhaps Q3.

I play this game way too much. :)

Great game with lots of enjoyment!
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Re: When did you land on the moon?

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I never considered their learning ability, that'll make a difference. I'd just choose the best 4 people at each thing, then have 3 on a payload/rocket while the 4th was studying, then swap that one in for one of the 3, and so on. Or 5 with 1 rotating in and out if cash was good.
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Re: When did you land on the moon?

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Here's how I break the people down:

I want 4 on the Thorable and at least 2 on the probe. I'll take low learning ability for a rocket man if they have a high rocket number. My thinking is I'll fire them when I close the Thorable program.

I use 4 on the Human Rockets and train them early. Think 75-90 in training with 90+ intelligence.
I do the same for the Crew Experts. If I can, I'll covert those Thorable people to 2 Crew 1 EVA and 1 Probe.
On Gemini 2 Probe for the Docking and 2 for the EVA work well enough.

You want well trained rocket people for the Saturn V. Also keep an eye for when the 4th guy seems like he's only adding 1 percent. That's usually a good time to train. The extra Crew people come in handy when I want a few extra quarters of research on the Direct vehicle but also want a bit more R&D on Gemini.

Good luck! Tell me your best and if I helped. :)
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Re: When did you land on the moon?

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Q4 1968 with the Soviets.
Q3 1969 with NASA, which I find kind of lucky given that would be the exact season Apollo 11 happened.
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Re: When did you land on the moon?

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Baris70, game developers will make this game harder because of you. ;D Anyways.. Hope you'll achieve the same on Hard difficulty as you did on normal. You nickname looks suspicious.. where are you from? ;D
English isn't my native language. Just starting to learn it. Don't be harsh if I say something wrong. Thank You for understanding!
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Re: When did you land on the moon?

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Q2 1965 on Hard. I agree they should make it harder a bit or change it up. Some things harder and some things easier.
Q4 1967 was Normal with all women crews, scientists, and mission control.
Q4 1963 on Normal is absurd. Kennedy was alive.

I'm playing Buzz Hard now. It's a bit trickier to figure out. I'm experimenting with the spy plane. I like that for the prestige. The game is a bit old for me right now, but I look forward to updates.

I'm from the NE USA. :) My Cousin actually worked on the original game. I took the acronym and 1970. There was never a man on the moon in my lifetime. In 1970, there was, so I used those numbers. Just curious Sakirneh, where are you from and what's your native language? Your English appears well enough to me. :)
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Re: When did you land on the moon?

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BARIS70 wrote:Just curious Sakirneh, where are you from and what's your native language? Your English appears well enough to me. :)
Lithuania (small country near Baltic sea) and we have our language ;D
BTW! Sorry for offtopic :)
And since BARIS70 has some amazing achievements, I need to beat them ;D At least one of them. For now I'll just investigate steps and see where it's possible to improve. :)
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Re: When did you land on the moon?

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I know where Lithuania is! :)

Make no apologies for your English. It's fine.
At some point I need to set a mark on Buzz Hard. :)

What's the Best on Buzz Hard? I would love to know.
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Re: When did you land on the moon?

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Hard mode NASA:
Gemini Direct Ascending 1970 Q1
Apollo Lunar Landing 1973 Q3

Hard mode Russia:
LK 700 Direct Ascend 1970 Q3
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Re: When did you land on the moon?

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It's 2018, and I still enjoy this game on occasion. Anyone have a worthy successor?
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Re: When did you land on the moon?

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Hi there!

Great game, unfortuntely i found it so late march 2018. Only tried it on after tutorial play (probably it is equal to sandbox Nasa). Finished by symbolical 1969 Q3 :) . Was fairly easy. Did almost all achivements except Jupiter flyby (was launched but on stage 6 of 21), and both venus&mercury programs (not launched). Also did docking action only during Appollo program (during lunar orbit LEM test and during lunar landing ofcause) but somehow it is not count them for this achivement (that's strange).

Now trying on buzz-hard. First 4 years went fine (satellite + x-15 fulfilled with thor rocket) with 1 quarter margin 3500$ availiable and positive balance all the way. Second 4 years did't count budget well so can't finish manned orbit flight during mercury program (were planned Pioneer 4, Pioneer 2, Mercury manned suborbital and orbital) so got not all required prestige and not max budget for next 4 years. Guess not a good result, so will try to do it it other way before continue it with current result. If everything fine will write short aar.
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