1678-1680 Danish

[ravenflight]

Hi All,

I'm going to be building a 1678-1680 Danish army.

Does anyone know any information about flags etc?

Also, what battles were the Danes in at that time?

The most I can see is that there were tonnes of Danes in Ireland during the Nine Year's war.

[titanu]

I am not sure if they changed in the intervening period but the War of the Spanish Succession has:

http://www.warflag.com/flags/wss/wsssgaselect.shtml

and FlagDude has:

DANISH

INFANTRY

DRONNINGENS LIVEREGIMENT
FYNSKE or FUNEN
GARDET TIL FODS Lieb
GARDET TIL FODS Bn.
GRENADERKORPSET
JYSKE or JYLLANSKE
MARINEREGIMENT
MARINEREGIMENT Company
MILITIA
OLDENBERSKE-OELS Bn.
PRINCE CARL
PRINCE FREDERICK/PRINCE CHRISTIAN
PRINCE GEORGE Lieb
PRINCE GEORGE 1st Bn.
PRINCE GEORGE 2nd Bn.
SJAELLANDSKE Lieb
SJALLENDSLE Bn. 1
SJALLENDSKE Bn. 2
SJAELLANDSKE Company
WRTTEMBERG-OELS

CAVALRY

LIVREGIMENT TIL HEST
1st SJAELLANDSKE
2nd SJAELLANDSKE
1st JYSKE
2nd JYSKE
3rd JYSKE
4th JYSKE
5th JYSKE

•CUIRASSIERS

HOLSTENSKE Cuirassiers
SJAELLANDSKE-FYNSKE Cuirassiers

•DRAGOONS

DRAGOONS #1 white
DRAGOONS #2 red

[ravenflight]

I am not sure if they changed in the intervening period but the War of the Spanish Succession has:

http://www.warflag.com/flags/wss/wsssgaselect.shtml

and FlagDude has:

DANISH

INFANTRY

DRONNINGENS LIVEREGIMENT
FYNSKE or FUNEN
GARDET TIL FODS Lieb
GARDET TIL FODS Bn.
GRENADERKORPSET
JYSKE or JYLLANSKE
MARINEREGIMENT
MARINEREGIMENT Company
MILITIA
OLDENBERSKE-OELS Bn.
PRINCE CARL
PRINCE FREDERICK/PRINCE CHRISTIAN
PRINCE GEORGE Lieb
PRINCE GEORGE 1st Bn.
PRINCE GEORGE 2nd Bn.
SJAELLANDSKE Lieb
SJALLENDSLE Bn. 1
SJALLENDSKE Bn. 2
SJAELLANDSKE Company
WRTTEMBERG-OELS

CAVALRY

LIVREGIMENT TIL HEST
1st SJAELLANDSKE
2nd SJAELLANDSKE
1st JYSKE
2nd JYSKE
3rd JYSKE
4th JYSKE
5th JYSKE

•CUIRASSIERS

HOLSTENSKE Cuirassiers
SJAELLANDSKE-FYNSKE Cuirassiers

•DRAGOONS

DRAGOONS #1 white
DRAGOONS #2 red

Thanks mate. I think they probably DID change. Their uniform colour went from a French grey style to a British Red style in the interum, but I think I'll go with them if I can't find any factual information... I mean, if I search high and low for info and can't find it, how is anyone going to prove me wrong... and of course if they do... well, I'll have the factual information then... right?

[benjones1211]

Hi Ravenflight

I have just what you want Danish Army 1675-79 pdf document, which goes through the Danish uniforms, colours and standards for those dates.
Also Danish Uniforms 1699-1720.pdf
Send me an e-mail to ben at benedictjones.plus.com and I will send you the first one, and if you want the second one. Different e-mails as the first is 4M and the second 3M

Ben

[ravenflight]

Hi All,

First off a belated thanks to Ben who did send me the good stuff as promised. I'm pretty sure I thanked him in a reply e-mail, but just so people know I'm not an entirely rude bugger... well... thanks.

Secondly, I am an entirely rude bugger, but I'm a polite rude bugger... well... most of the time .

Lastly, does anyone know what colour artillery train would be in this period?

So, here is what I think are my options:

1 - do what you want, because there doesn't seem to be any records;
2 - go for the colours in a later period, and assume that in the earlier periods with no records would have been something similar;
3 - go red, as it seems that they followed the French in a lot of things, and the French went red.
4 - all of the above is fine for the army artillery, but what about regimental guns?
4a - do what you want, because there doesn't seem to be any records;
4b - go for the colours in a later period, and assume that in the earlier periods with no records would have been something similar;
4c - go red, as it seems that they followed the French in a lot of things, and the French went red.
4d - go the facing colour of the regiment in question (I personally like this idea).

So, given my above options, does anyone have any knowledge of later period Danish artillery colours? I think I have a book on Napoleonic Artillery knocking around here somewhere, but I definitely wouldn't have anything earlier. Does anyone know what colour the Danes would have used in something like the War of Spanish Succession or the Seven Years War?

Secondly, if you went 'do what you want' what colour would you pick? Would you do each gun carriage a different colour as the gunners used whatever was available to protect the wood? What would you do?

Thanks.

[RonanTheLibrarian]

Dan Schorr - pretty much the "go-to guy" for the Scandinavian armies of he Scanian/Augsburg/Spanish Succession wars - says red with yellow metal fittings, and the Royal Cypher painted onto the carriages (also in yellow, but he doesn't say whereabouts). This colour combo is valid from 1628 to 1764. During this period, the Danish artillery wore a rather fetching combination of violet coats with green facings, so you might need to wear sunglasses whilst basing the painted guns and crews.

I'm not sure if the fittings were brass, or iron painted yellow; Saxon artillery in the Napoleonic Wars had a black carriages with yellow metal fittings, so you could use images of their guns to get an idea of what the yellow should look like. However, the red would almost certainly be the lead oxide derived "barn red" tone that Americans would be familiar with - which is why so many countries used "red lead" or "white lead" (sometimes wrongly depicted as a very light blue-grey) for their gun carriages for the 18th and early 19th centuries.

Dan can be contacted via the "League of Augsburg" forum; his excellent website is no longer directly available on-line, but one of the archive retrieval systems has a route back to it (I'm sure someone else can give you a link to that, I can't recall it off-hand).

[ravenflight]

Thanks Ronan.