Victory Conditions

[alfamail]

I have played three multiplayer games of P&S with Painless recently: 30 Years War scenarios Lutter (twice) and 1st Breitenfeld. In each of the games we do not feel that the stated victory conditions were used. I think in all three cases we had to get to 60% routed before victory was declared by the software even though it should have been declared at least at the 40% level.

[rbodleyscott]

I have played three multiplayer games of P&S with Painless recently: 30 Years War scenarios Lutter (twice) and 1st Breitenfeld. In each of the games we do not feel that the stated victory conditions were used. I think in all three cases we had to get to 60% routed before victory was declared by the software even though it should have been declared at least at the 40% level.

Thanks. We will look into it.

[rbodleyscott]

Which side eventually won each battle? Which side won each scenario?

In Lutter, because of the disparity of forces, the Catholics need to have suffered 35% less routed than the Danes to win between 40-59%.

In Breitenfeld, (to partially compensate for the early demise of the Saxons), the Catholics have to rout more than 50% to get an "early victory" (instead of 40%) and 37% more than they have had routed themselves.

[alfamail]

"Which side eventually won each battle? Which side won each scenario?"

The catholic side won all three battles.

In our first game of Lutter the Danes took 42% routed and the Catholics 1% which I have to admit seems right. I was mistaken.
In our second game of Lutter the Danes took 67% routed and the Catholics 21% which is a victory under the conditions but we believe that victory should have been declared on the previous turn i.e. above 40% and more than 35% difference. Can't prove anything though.
In the Breitenfeld game Swedes took 58% routed and the Catholics 21% which again tallies with what you are saying, but not with the conditions stated in the scenario (40% and 17% more). The scenario wording doesn't seem to agree with what the software is checking for.

Thanks for the help.

[rbodleyscott]

In the Breitenfeld game Swedes took 58% routed and the Catholics 21% which again tallies with what you are saying, but not with the conditions stated in the scenario (40% and 17% more). The scenario wording doesn't seem to agree with what the software is checking for.

The two sides have different "early victory" conditions, because of the Catholic's advantage (mainly because of the Saxon failure). The Swedes need to get 40% and 17% more, the Catholics need to get 40% and 37% more. This is stated correctly in the UI for each side, but you only see your own victory conditions, not the enemy's.