Scenario Design Resources

[Hoplite1963]

Now that "Pike and Shot" has been released I thought it would be helpful to give some information on some of the published source material available for use in designing further scenarios.
First off it's important to mention "Battles of the Thirty Years War: From White Mountain to Nordlingen, 1618-1635" and "The Later Thirty Years War: From the Battle of Wittstock to the Treaty of Westphalia" by the late William P. Guthrie. Both of these are available (although they're not cheep) in either printed or Kendall format. I understand they are the main source for the 30 Years War scenarios that shipped with the game. However they include detailed order of battle and deployment map information for a great many other battles.

Also by the same author and published posthumously (so far in printed format only) by Cavalier Books is "Actions Of The 30 Years War" among other things this covers the conflict in Poland in the 1620's, as well as the fighting in Italy and the continuing conflict in Flanders between France and Spain after 1648 including detailed information on the 1658 "Battle Of the Dunes" in which a French army supported by a "New Model Army" contingent was opposed by a Spanish force with French rebel and English royalist exile allies. (I plan to make this the subject of one of the first scenarios I design for the game)

In addition to the 3 "Guthrie books a good source particularly for deployment maps is" Europe's Tragedy: A New History of the Thirty Years War" by Peter H. Wilson, Available at a rather more reasonable cost in both printed and kindle formats.

For the Italian wars and the 16th century generally "Renaissance Battles 1494-1700" volumes 1 and 2 by Peter Sides (only available in print second hand) has lots of ideas, were following up. Also, working on the basis that competition is healthy and imitation is the sincerest form of flattery its worth mentioning the HPS "The Renaissance" game as many it scenarios (without waiting for further nationalities to be added to the game) could be converted for "Pike and Shot" including some interesting Italian Wars ones that were not covered by the games release such as Cerignola, 21st April 1503, Agnadello, 14th May 1509 & Marciano, 2 August 1554.

I am not really up on what the best sources are for English Civil War battles, perhaps somebody else with greater knowledge of the available sources could made some suggestions here?

Enjoy
Ian

[Adebar]

Below two nice sites useful for scenario designers.

Battles from 1525 to 1694. Descriptions, maps, OOBs etc. (in English, French and Spanish):

http://www.reocities.com/aow1617/aow.html

Battles from 1620 to 1691. Descriptions, maps and detailed OOBs (only in Italian):

http://alaguerre.luridoteca.net/ita/alg600/oob.html

[Hoplite1963]

Hi Adebar
Thanks very much for this, great stuff. As the Savoyard flag in this period looked very like the Danish one it might be possible to add Danish units to a French Army to do Tornavento. The "Actions Of the 30 Years War" book also covers this as well but without the map.

It would also be great to see the San Gottard battle redone as this was Raimondo Montecuccoli's greatest victory. Have to get my translation softwhere working here although with so many of the terms we use for this period being borrowed from the Italian anyway you can get a good general idea without it.

Kind regards
Ian

[Adebar]

Glad to be of help, Ian!

I see a lot of work ahead of us. The editor looks rather complex and I haven't got any clue concernig the AI scripts yet. Anyway, I'll post more links here when I find some that seem helpful.

Greetings,
A.

[NickDirlewanger]

Glad to be of help, Ian!

I see a lot of work ahead of us. The editor looks rather complex and I haven't got any clue concernig the AI scripts yet. Anyway, I'll post more links here when I find some that seem helpful.

Greetings,
A.

There is no manual for scripting?

[Hoplite1963]

I have decided to break myself in gently by doing a scenario for the battle of Cerignola, 21st April 1503 (based on a conversion of the scenario for this battle in the HPS REN game) where the Spanish used firearms and field fortifications to defeat the combination of French Gendarmes and Swiss Pikemen. The editor is a bit fiddly but just about got the hang of placing objects on the map today.

By the way I notice that the manual still makes reference to making maps for Battle Academy.

All great fun in any case

Regards
Ian

[TheGrayMouser]

I have decided to break myself in gently by doing a scenario for the battle of Cerignola, 21st April 1503 (based on a conversion of the scenario for this battle in the HPS REN game) where the Spanish used firearms and field fortifications to defeat the combination of French Gendarmes and Swiss Pikemen. The editor is a bit fiddly but just about got the hang of placing objects on the map today.

By the way I notice that the manual still makes reference to making maps for Battle Academy.

All great fun in any case

Regards
Ian

Cant wait to see it!
(btw, hope you find the time to complete the HPS Ren mod )

[Hoplite1963]

Yes its still in the works just finished the Italian Wars period French graphics. Once they are added to the files I will work on some more scenarios hoping to bring out a new version of the mod some time next year.

Regards
Ian

[Micha63]

Hello Scenariomakers,

looking forward for your work. If we have one day a mod for wars between 1700 and 1800 i will join you.
If anyone likes he can have a look what i have done in the past :
http://www.peoplesgeneral.de
Every mod works as standalone.

[Hoplite1963]

Hi Micha
Good to hear from you. Have you thought about applying your work on the German Peasants War to this game.

When I was doing the Swabian League and Peasant forces for my REN II mod I built up quite a stock of graphics images flags etc which I could let you have. Also it looks as if the free Paint.Net graphics softwhere can be used to work on the DDS format files that work with the game.

All the best
ian

[Micha63]

Hallo Ian,

ist also good to hear from you. I"m glad we both find a game which makes us able to relize our plans on a modern engine.
But i will not be to happy to early. I hope this game will sell enough copys to motivate the creators of this game to do more
Mods . As you can see in many other games, if there are not enough selled copys the big Expansion plans are cancelled very fast.

Sorry for the german peasent war, i think the 5 battles in my german peasents war peg mod are enough. This was a boring war if a war at all.
more a peasents slautering. For the Moment i will finish 3 started Scenarios for my 7 years war peg mod . Afterwards i will stop my seven years war
Project and will wait untill we have a 7 years war mod here. If this mod will be god i will do Scenarios for Pike and shot.
In the meantime i will work on my Afganistan, Vietnam, Irak and Falklandwar for Peg. If i should find time i will help you playtesting here.

[Warlord156]

May I suggest the book ' A Battlefield atlas of the English civil war' by Anthony Baker. An excellent source for reference on battles of the ECW, full of maps, battle plans and descriptions. Although an old title I believe it is still available from Amazon.

[Warlord156]

I have made a couple of scenario's for the English civil war, but am unable to upload them ( I have not done this type of thing before). If anybody can give me some advice on how to make my scenario's available, it would be greatly appreciated......

[rbodleyscott]

I have made a couple of scenario's for the English civil war, but am unable to upload them ( I have not done this type of thing before). If anybody can give me some advice on how to make my scenario's available, it would be greatly appreciated......

See

http://www.slitherinebravo.net/GameWiki ... _older_hot

The section headed "Share Unofficial User Scenarios on Any Platform".

User.txt is in \My Documents\My Games\PikeandShot

If you have any queries I will attempt to answer them.

Note that the filenames are case-sensitive (which caught me out when testing it).

[Warlord156]

Thanks for your help Richard. I have uploaded a small scenario to dropbox ( Battle of Cropredy Bridge). This is primarily to test if I have set things up correctly.... probably not as this is all new to me. If I have been successful please let me know so that I can upload more scenario's....... Thank you.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/gye82xs89qij5 ... 2.CPF?dl=1

Moderator: This link is wrong, see post on 2nd page for correct link.

[Adebar]

When I try to download the scenario from inside the game (copy + paste of the dl link), the game freezes. But I could dl the file manually. So I have this .CPF file. And now? (No hints in the manual or on this slitherinebravo.net site.) *scratches head*

[rbodleyscott]

When I try to download the scenario from inside the game (copy + paste of the dl link), the game freezes. But I could dl the file manually. So I have this .CPF file. And now? (No hints in the manual or on this slitherinebravo.net site.) *scratches head*

The game does freeze while downloading the file, but will release when the download is complete. There is then a second button which allow it to be incorporated into your game.

How large a file are we talking about?

[Adebar]

Can't tell, I'm at work ATM, but it cannot be that big. The manual download is just a matter of a few seconds, but with the ingame-function the game freezes much longer. I ended it via the Task Manager after ca. 5 minutes.

[rbodleyscott]

Can't tell, I'm at work ATM, but it cannot be that big. The manual download is just a matter of a few seconds, but with the ingame-function the game freezes much longer. I ended it via the Task Manager after ca. 5 minutes.

Me too. I will get on to tech support about whether there is an issue.

[Adebar]

Further details:

The file is 152 KB "large".

During freeze the game eats 25 % of my CPU.

Tried it again some minutes ago, same result.