Rear support -effect

[paulbg]

Unit A is attacked by units X and Y, both X and Y are supported by Z

X gets +1 for support and A -1
Y gets +1 for support and A -1

So A loses 2 die.

Did we get it right ?

[Saxonian]

Not quite..... No unit will ever get more than a "+" or "-" one die as a result of rear support, regardless of the number of units involved.
In your example, X and Y each get +1 for rear support, while A gets -1.

To turn it around, if A had rear support, and X and Y did not, A would be +1 and X and Y would each be -1.......... even though facing two units A still only gets one dice.

And also, if both sides all have rear support, the supports cancel each other out so there is no + or -.

[BrettPT]

I find the simplest way to remember this rule is for each player to look at each one of their own units that are fighting and say:

a) does my unit have rear support, if so +1.
b) does my enemy have rear support, if so -1.

If you have two of your own units fighting then do this for each of your units.

[paulbg]

Interesting

I cannot see in the rules where there is a limit to + or - dice - happy if you could point me in the relight direction.

If I apply the rules, as written, then
Unit has rear support +1 and each opponent -1

So 2 attackers both with support would mean -2

If the rules said

Unit has rear support +1
Opponent has rear support -1

Then that would be clear.

[MDH]

One way to look at this is where you have two units facing one unit all of whom qualify for rear support. We do not say that there is a net loss of one die for the single unit or a net gain for one of the other two .It is a zero sum all round.

[deadtorius]

Unit has rear support +1 and each opponent -1

My take on it is that each opponent individually loses one die. You have two units attacking but only one opposing unit defending, thus -1 die loss. If you had a situation where your two attacking units were to hit two defending opposing units, one one of your attackers partially contacts two defenders, then each defending unit would lose -1 die for rear support, but the attacker still gains +1 die for each separate attack. Attacker gets +1 die per combat, not 2 dice which he can use wherever he wants.

[Saxonian]

I cannot see in the rules where there is a limit to + or - dice - happy if you could point me in the relight direction

You are correct in that the rules are not as explicit as they could be.
See here for confirmation from Terry:

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