[Axis Campaign] Legacy of Versailles-vanilla v0.3 (11/08/14)

[hugh2711]

I did fall wies/poland and fulfilled the conditions neccessary for a decisive victory BUT INSTEAD the game flashed up the message 'axis surrendered' and dumped me out of the mod. whats going on? thanks for info

[nikivdd]

I did fall wies/poland and fulfilled the conditions neccessary for a decisive victory BUT INSTEAD the game flashed up the message 'axis surrendered' and dumped me out of the mod. whats going on? thanks for info

Were there still any of your units east of the German-Russian demarcation line?

[hugh2711]

Sorry I thought I had got them all back but i had missed one. i apologise for any inconvenience. Very nice mod by the way. thanks for the help.

[nikivdd]

Sorry I thought I had got them all back but i had missed one. i apologise for any inconvenience. Very nice mod by the way. thanks for the help.

No inconvenience at all. If you have a question or problem, don't hesitate to post. Just can't promise i'll always be able to answer quickly

[timek28]

Niki no comment on the NY scenario? Maybe another deployment zone for ships?

[nikivdd]

@Timek. I saw your message, had no time yet to check those particular scenarios in the editor.

Changes to scenarios Philadelpia/Gettysburg/New York:
- I noticed that all these scenarios already have their exit hexes (always marked at the edge of the map)
- The AI spawn has been reduced drastically for all these scenarios; the AI cannot buy any additional units as long there is 1 core unit and/or 1 auxiliary unit left on the map.
- For scenario NY i have added deployment hexes in the southeast corner of the map for landing craft/ships/aircraft and raised the number of landing craft to 10.

This attachment will also be part of the next update of the whole package.

Ph-Get-NY.rar

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[timek28]

Thank you very much Niki! I'm sorry for being so annoying though... Once again your rock

[nikivdd]

Thank you very much Niki! I'm sorry for being so annoying though... Once again your rock

No problemo

[hugh2711]

In the briefing to the norway/sweden scenario (about number 5?) it says 'several ships ....added to your core..'. (another pic says ten have been added) There have been two capital ships in the core since approximately scenario 2 do you mean these or do you mean the (4) capital ships on the map before deployment that survive will be added to the core?.



thanks for info

[timek28]

Yes those ships will be added to the core. It's in fact a very important scenario as several ships and 3 FJ units are added into the core.

@Niki

Your update has one accidental file. Balkans44

[hugh2711]

Thank you. the rest of them have appeared now as well.

[timek28]

Although I'm struggling to finish the LoV I decided to give a perspective of overall good and bad points of the mod since I'm close to the end:

Good ones:

1) Incredibly long campaign (around 70 scenarios), with scenarios of about 30 turns on average. LOTS of hours of fun. Probably the most fun of any official or custom campaign ever made with GTPG included. Players VERY thirsty for PC action have to play LoV!

2) Versatile scenarios. Mixtures of large combats, naval skirmishes, special bonus scenarios. Defense and offense etc...

3) Clever scenario designs. Very good unit placements and enemy retaliation scripts. I could say maybe even too good. Most of the time scripting is even better then the original games (PC, AK and AC). Niki obviously knows his job and does it with much love and attention to details.

4) Addictive feel. More addictive than any prior campaign that I played. The wast theater of war lures player into wanting more and more.

5) Nice unit additions, gifts, ships added to the core, rail guns, planes, heroes, V1 and V2 rockets etc...

Bad ones:
MAJOR ONE:
1) Incredibly long campaign again It depends from the perspective that you look at it. Definitely not for inexperienced PC players. Campaign is very time consuming so it can be very discouraging at times. You finish one big and hard scenario just to encounter several more. My breaking point was UK44 which had 80 turns. I just couldn't play it. Luckily Niki has made that scenario optional.

I think LoV is taking me more then twice the time needed to complete GC East (39-45) which says something. Or at least that is the feeling I get. It takes me around 4 hours to finish one average scenario. Scenarios of about 40 turns takes me 5-6 hours. Combine that and you get 70x5 hours ~ 350hours. Considering I can play around 2 hours on average daily as I have a job and a girlfriend, that is about 5-6 months of play which is enormous for a SP game.

Also related to this is the fact that in original PC usually there is a "breaking point" where enemy doesn't spawn new planes or tanks. This is the time when a player can go on autopilot and risk more then usual (expose units etc). In LoV most of the times this is not the case. Player has to be on his toes 99% of the time, otherwise he can loose a precious unit late in scenario in a bombing run when he thinks everything is over... I recall Africa scenarios being especially notorious with this.

MINOR ONES:
2) Inconsistent in-game messaging. Sometimes you are warned of enemy movements and counter attacks (spawns) most times you are not. This especially applies to AI planes that are a real pest and could come anytime. Original game didn't have messages for this (as far as I recall), so maybe it would be better to remove messages of this type altogether then for player to expect messages and then be surprised by sudden attacks.

3) Sometimes there are weird deployment zones. For example in Getysburg tank battle player is given patches of 3-4 hexes to deploy his units without a chance to create defensive line in time. So the first AI punch inevitably creates loses no matter how clever you place your units. It takes several moves to consolidate forces and make a solid defense. This could be a simulation of scrambling for defense or sudden attack by US troops though so maybe I didn't consider that. Similar problem is in Tea Party scenario. Left part of the map gets only 9 deployment hexes while right gets 28. Both are equally important. Luckily with consecutive deployments I was able to circumvent this and deploy many more units on the left.

3) Perfect enemy placement. There is no tank in close terrain or infantry in open. Ambushes are created on purpose so never should any vulnerable unit be left without protection. Enemy units are placed having in mind their movement, sight range, terrain type and other factors so that they are rarely in disadvantage. Too much fortifications and entrenchments for my liking also. Especially in US and Africa.

4) Problems of compatibility with PC 1.21. Prestige gain is sometimes problematic and unbalanced. However this could be circumvented with custom prestige boost (if too little prestige) or reduction. I personally played on colonel settings with 130% prestige and 1.21 rules (cap included). So it was kind of a trade off.

Finally Niki I will try to watch your replays of DLC East. Maybe by understanding your playing style I might have a better chance of finishing LoV. Cheers

[nikivdd]

@Timek

Thank you for your constructive feedback, as it has always been the case. Truth is truth, the current version of LoV would not have been the same without your feedback.
The campaign is indeed long and does require a lot from the player. I truly hope you will find the time to be part of the betatester team of the upcoming official content.
Хвала ти пуно

[brdrumz]

nikivdd....

all this talk of "OFFICIAL CONTENT" has me excited about the PzCorps Series continuing! I know if you are part of the campaign creations and modding official stuff, it should be great fun!!
Looking forward to it!! (and the 1.0 version of LoV)

[BiteNibbleChomp]

upcoming official content.

Soviet Corps? or are you hiding something else?

- BNC

[timek28]

@Nikivdd

Bitte
Soyez le bienvenu
Graag gedaan

Not sure which language is the one you use And yes finally in Serbian: Нема на чему

I am really glad that I have contributed to the LoV, and I will till the the end of playing it.

As far as beta testing goes, I'm more then eager to participate in it. Please be free to hit me with a PM when you have more info about it

All the best

Bogdan (timek28)

[nikivdd]

@BNC
I'm not working on Soviet Corps, or i would be throwing Tigers and Jagdpanzers in 1941
What i'm working on, i may not reveal. At the appropriate time, Slitherine will make the necessary announcement and place the call for betatesters.

@Timek
You did your research. We do have three official languages but i will settle for "graag gedaan"

@brdrumz
I believed it not to be such a bad idea, after three years of unofficial modding, to try some official modding. Perhaps i will get the chance to create more after my first assignment.

[BiteNibbleChomp]

@BNC
I'm not working on Soviet Corps, or i would be throwing Tigers and Jagdpanzers in 1941

You're mean

However, I have got a nasty enemy set for the next addition to WWI.

What i'm working on, i may not reveal. At the appropriate time, Slitherine will make the necessary announcement and place the call for betatesters.

That doesn't stop us from predicting!

My next guesses are either an add-on for AC that starts in France, 1940, or a Grand Campaign for Afrikakorps.

Or.... there was Pacific General, Star General and Fantasy General. Those could happen as well.

Anyway, I can't wait to find out!

- BNC

[timek28]

Nikki please could you fetch me original LoV config file? I have restarted campaign altogether as I'm struggling in US scenarios with default 3 stars core I created in Greenland. I believe I have too little experience. Thus I had to resort to all Tiger IIs, while Panthers are needed as well. But Panthers cannot withstand M26 and T28 unless they are 5 stars.

Restart will be costly but I have to form a better core with rail guns and everything. Now I'm getting heroes too fast so I need the default config I will probably play LoV till the end of the year now

Sorry for so much bothering.

[nikivdd]

@BNC: keep predicting and guessing

@Timek: i hope this is what you need

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