Hello,
I'm playing v0.7.23.1 NASA Sandbox.
The attached file is a screen shot of the Public Affairs Office. Under Funds and Expenditures total expenditures is shown as $1,024.0 but SET Salaries ($274.0) and Facilities ($500.0) equals $774.0.
Are there expenditures not shown here but included in the Total sum?
-greg
Public Affairs Office Overview
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HoberMallow
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Re: Public Affairs Office Overview
Programmes and buildings have an ongoing cost but this is not made clear in the game just how much it all is.
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Re: Public Affairs Office Overview
Hello,
Yes, I somewhat agree. The ongoing cost for buildings is shown under Expenditure Facilities and the ongoing Program cost is shown under Salaries. But the example I attached has a $250.0 expense not accounted for ($1024.0 - $774.0 = $250.0).
In order for a Budget to make sense and be workable all expenses should be detailed on the balance sheet -- how else can one keep track of what they have spent and what funds are available?
-greg
Yes, I somewhat agree. The ongoing cost for buildings is shown under Expenditure Facilities and the ongoing Program cost is shown under Salaries. But the example I attached has a $250.0 expense not accounted for ($1024.0 - $774.0 = $250.0).
In order for a Budget to make sense and be workable all expenses should be detailed on the balance sheet -- how else can one keep track of what they have spent and what funds are available?
-greg
Re: Public Affairs Office Overview
Hello guys,
Yes, those are fair points. I'll address that in the short-term.
Cheers,
Yes, those are fair points. I'll address that in the short-term.
Cheers,
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Re: Public Affairs Office Overview
Hello,
Version 0.7.23.1, NASA Sandbox, Quarter 1. 1955
I examined this issue in more detail and believe I pin-pointed where the discrepancy occurs.
After playing a single season I compared results from the BASPM Budget with a spreadsheet I prepared to track the Budget. I attached a screen shot from the game and a screen capture of my spreadsheet.
At the end of the quarter the spreadsheet and BASPM listed current funds at $20,712.0 (expenditures are listed in the spreadsheet). No astronauts or flight controllers wee hired. SET salaries were listed as $270.0 by BASPM and the spreadsheet.
The initial Facilities cost was $350.0. Explorer I maint. ($103.0) and X-15 maint. ($147.0) included in the spreadsheet under Facilities was included in BASPM under total expenditures. Note there were two maint. costs incurred, SET at $600.0 and VAB at $250.0, shown on the spreadsheet but unaccounted for by BASPM.
Total expenses should be $1,720.0 and quarter end balance should be $1,280.0. Therefore current funds at the start of the next quarter should be $21,992.0 ($20,712.0 + $1,280.0). The current funds on BASPM of $22,842.0 was obtained by adding $20,712 and $2,130.0 (which is missing two expenses).
My observations:
- it appears the SET and VAB ongoing costs were inadvertently omitted
- the Explorer I and X-15 ongoing cost are "hidden" under total expenses but should be explicitly included under Facilities.
- the quarterly balance from any given quarter is added to the next quarter current funds. Should these funds instead be carried over to the next quarters budget
Version 0.7.23.1, NASA Sandbox, Quarter 1. 1955
I examined this issue in more detail and believe I pin-pointed where the discrepancy occurs.
After playing a single season I compared results from the BASPM Budget with a spreadsheet I prepared to track the Budget. I attached a screen shot from the game and a screen capture of my spreadsheet.
At the end of the quarter the spreadsheet and BASPM listed current funds at $20,712.0 (expenditures are listed in the spreadsheet). No astronauts or flight controllers wee hired. SET salaries were listed as $270.0 by BASPM and the spreadsheet.
The initial Facilities cost was $350.0. Explorer I maint. ($103.0) and X-15 maint. ($147.0) included in the spreadsheet under Facilities was included in BASPM under total expenditures. Note there were two maint. costs incurred, SET at $600.0 and VAB at $250.0, shown on the spreadsheet but unaccounted for by BASPM.
Total expenses should be $1,720.0 and quarter end balance should be $1,280.0. Therefore current funds at the start of the next quarter should be $21,992.0 ($20,712.0 + $1,280.0). The current funds on BASPM of $22,842.0 was obtained by adding $20,712 and $2,130.0 (which is missing two expenses).
My observations:
- it appears the SET and VAB ongoing costs were inadvertently omitted
- the Explorer I and X-15 ongoing cost are "hidden" under total expenses but should be explicitly included under Facilities.
- the quarterly balance from any given quarter is added to the next quarter current funds. Should these funds instead be carried over to the next quarters budget
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Re: Public Affairs Office Overview
Hello Hober,
Apologies for taking a few days to get back to you on this one. Notice that mission components also have a maintenance cost, so that's the number you're missing. We've introduced that feature not long ago and forgot to update the PAO stats accordingly. We'll get it sorted for the next big patch.
Cheers,
Apologies for taking a few days to get back to you on this one. Notice that mission components also have a maintenance cost, so that's the number you're missing. We've introduced that feature not long ago and forgot to update the PAO stats accordingly. We'll get it sorted for the next big patch.
Cheers,