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stevoid
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Burmese

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Any rough indications on what a Burmese ally should look like. I'm guessing an ally general and 2-4 elephants but am unsure about other troops.

As an aside, is it likely that the Burmese list when it is done will contain any variation to the common or garden variety classical elephant? Some sort of bow armament perhaps...

I wouldn't want to see a return to the days of the pachyderm flying fortresses that marked 7th ed but on a functional basis I'd like to see some variation on elephant BGs.

Cheers,

Steve
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Post by Rudy_Nelson »

A lot would depend on the type of ally and the main type of Burmese army being fielded.
Are either Burman or Shan or Talaing/Mon or Arkanese, Siamese or other? Each group were well known for specific troop types.
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Post by stevoid »

Ok, narrowing it down, the Burmese ally for Ming.

Steve
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Post by Rudy_Nelson »

Wow a very late era when the Burmese were involved with the long wars against Siamese city of Ayudhya.

Would this be post or pre handgun era. the Burmese often deployed a guard formation of European mercenaries with precious gem and metal inlaid handguns?

Just my concept of a four batlle group Allied contingent. This limits the number of required troops available including those that should be fielded but are not.
As only an ally a general would not call out the miltia from other ethnic groups.

Pre-gunpowder should have a bodyguard Bg of Shan spearmen. A battle group of Elephants with General attached can be used but as only an ally would he risk such highly valued sacred animals? A good question and one which could easily be answered no by the designers. . A BG of Regular archers as well as one BG of Regular Spearmen. If elephants are not used a fourth BG should consist of a BG of Skirmishers or Cavaley.

These Two troop type that were optional but which the designers may determine are required are cavalry and peasants. The cavalry among burmese forces was regarded poorly. They were often regulated to flank guards and sometimes they only had enough for one flank and used a river or skirmishers for the other flank. All Burmese armies led an attack with a horde of peasants some of which showed up at the levy muster with just a hammer and nails. (Aside my sculptor in Canada is working on two such sculpts as we speak.) the peasants main job was to build a pallisade every night before they stopped for the evening while on the march.
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Post by stevoid »

Thanks for that. Good luck on the projects.

Steve
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