Which new content would you prefer?

nikivdd · Post by **nikivdd** » Sat Apr 05, 2014 6:40 am

After the Axis Grand Campaign, Afrika Korps and Allied Corps, we are awaiting the much anticipated Soviet Corps. These fine additions guarantee hundreds of hours of fun, but i bet, that players are eager for more.
I'm sure nobody minds that i pop the question to all Panzer Corps players: which other add-ons/DLCs would you like to see appear in the future?

Mark50 · Post by **Mark50** » Sat Apr 05, 2014 9:01 am

I wonder, would a graphics add-on sell? I mean an official pack that adds more visual diversity. Currently a forest in North Africa and Greece looks the same to one in France or Scandinavia. And there are only three forest tiles in game (two of which are basically identical). This sort of thing makes for a rather blend visual experience from one map to the other. The minor Allied or Axis infantry use the same graphics for all nations if I remember correctly. There are also many important units that are missing. "Important", not just by my thinking, but for the developers too. In the DLC there`s a Fiat CR.42 masquerading as a Norwegian Gloster Gladiator, a German Bf 109D replaces the Yugoslav Bf 109E, French aircraft replace Dutch aircraft, British tanks replace dutch armoured cars and so on. Would be nice to have the real thing in those cases. A few more sounds would also be nice. Like an automatic 20mm cannon, instead of the single shot light AT sound that is used now. All of these would of course come with the relevant text files so that they`re integrated directly into the game when installed (as opposed to skilled people modding them into the game).

Maybe if these things would be sold - as opposed to being added freely - the developers would have an incentive to actually make them. Personally I`d be interested in such a graphics boost. I`m aware that people could make all of these things themselves and mod them into the game, but that is true for scenarios and campaigns too. Besides, some people don`t install mods and there`s also the nice thing that comes with official content that it adds things consistent in style with the rest of the game, which is much harder to achieve for people doing this in their own free time.

Akkula · Post by **Akkula** » Sat Apr 05, 2014 2:55 pm

I would like to have grand campaigns for soviet corps. I think the soviet campaign deserves it.

Ballermann · Post by **Ballermann** » Sat Apr 05, 2014 4:17 pm

Japan vs China ...

ksasaki · Post by **ksasaki** » Sat Apr 05, 2014 5:28 pm

soviet corps GC, allied corps GC I think are the highest on my wish list (in whatever order, both would be nice).

Longasc · Post by **Longasc** » Sat Apr 05, 2014 8:37 pm

Not really new Panzer Corps stuff, but it is already in the making and I find it interesting:

Warhammer 40K Armageddon. It's Panzer Corps in the Warhammer 40K universe.

jaggy · Post by **jaggy** » Sun Apr 06, 2014 8:17 am

Akkula wrote:I would like to have grand campaigns for soviet corps. I think the soviet campaign deserves it.

ksasaki wrote:soviet corps GC, allied corps GC I think are the highest on my wish list (in whatever order, both would be nice).

Agree with both about Soviet Corps grand campaigns but judging from Slitherine's stance, I don't think they are keen on making these scenarios. Note that when posters bring this subject up, they don't follow up with "We are thinking about it", etc. Its just total silence on grand campaigns for Soviet Corps.

nikivdd · Post by **nikivdd** » Sun Apr 06, 2014 8:59 am

jaggy wrote: Agree with both about Soviet Corps grand campaigns but judging from Slitherine's stance, I don't think they are keen on making these scenarios. Note that when posters bring this subject up, they don't follow up with "We are thinking about it", etc. Its just total silence on grand campaigns for Soviet Corps.

It has nothing to do with not being keen on making additional content. Now as PC has appeared on the Steam platform, additional campaigns are surely welcomed but the dev team is really small.
I am making something which i will propose to Slitherine later this year, but in my case, when you only have about one hour per day to work on such an endeavour, weeks literally pass by.

Akkula · Post by **Akkula** » Sun Apr 06, 2014 7:15 pm

jaggy wrote:
Akkula wrote:I would like to have grand campaigns for soviet corps. I think the soviet campaign deserves it.

ksasaki wrote:soviet corps GC, allied corps GC I think are the highest on my wish list (in whatever order, both would be nice).
Agree with both about Soviet Corps grand campaigns but judging from Slitherine's stance, I don't think they are keen on making these scenarios. Note that when posters bring this subject up, they don't follow up with "We are thinking about it", etc. Its just total silence on grand campaigns for Soviet Corps.

Maybe if cry out louder we can change their mind?

jaggy · Post by **jaggy** » Mon Apr 07, 2014 3:49 am

nikivdd wrote:
jaggy wrote:I am making something which i will propose to Slitherine later this year, but in my case, when you only have about one hour per day to work on such an endeavour, weeks literally pass by.
@nikivdd - I really do appreciate the effort put in by you and the other mod makers. Would you care to share what you are proposing to Slitherine? I know they are a small dev team but I feel Panzer Corps has the making of a really successful franchise. But if you take too long in making other Grand Campaigns , you risk losing potential customers because they may not be there if Slitherine does manage to get around making other GCs. Monkspider was asking about Soviet Corps testing since July 2013 and Slitherine is projecting Soviet Corps in late 2014? Which means if they intend to do a Grand Campaign at all, it will be in 2015?

lordzimoa wrote:Soviet Corps will be like Akrika and Allied . . . ETA, after we finished Warhammer 40,000: Armageddon, so later this year...

wargovichr · Post by **wargovichr** » Mon Apr 07, 2014 12:39 pm

I highly doubt they would release a 'Soviet Corps' without sequentially releasing DLCs for 'Allied Corps' '39-'45 first. They wouldn't have the staff for both. Forget about anything else....

ksasaki · Post by **ksasaki** » Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:07 pm

Couldn't they enlist some of us faithful forumgoers to help them in a "volunteer" capacity (maybe as compensation, give us the DLCs at some sort of discount for helping out?). I for one, would be happy to playtest or even learn some of the coding or scripting if it meant they could develop a GC in the near future. I'm sure there are experienced developers and modders who would be willing to help too. I don't know, maybe I am the exception not the rule?

Vorskl · Post by **Vorskl** » Tue Apr 08, 2014 3:12 am

a) Soviet Corps - ASAP please!
b) Marine missions with meaningful sea battles
c) Pacific Corps - Air carriers, kamikadze, zero etc
d) Graphic enhancement - more variety of city, forest, bridge icons

ThorHa · Post by **ThorHa** » Tue Apr 08, 2014 1:55 pm

One clear objection regarding Pacific, Vorski, the PC engine is as unsuitable for oceanic combat as the PG engine was. While the hex and turn based wargames can give at least a remote abstracted resemblance to combat if properly implemented, air and sea are impossible to simulate this way.

Pacific General was the most polished SSI 5 star game but at the same time the only one I rarely played, this negation only exceeded by the errant "Star General".

Regards,
Thorsten

rezaf · Post by **rezaf** » Tue Apr 08, 2014 4:47 pm

ThorHa wrote:One clear objection regarding Pacific, Vorski, the PC engine is as unsuitable for oceanic combat as the PG engine was. While the hex and turn based wargames can give at least a remote abstracted resemblance to combat if properly implemented, air and sea are impossible to simulate this way.

Pacific General was the most polished SSI 5 star game but at the same time the only one I rarely played, this negation only exceeded by the errant "Star General".

I dunno, I think the root cause was just that the naval combat implementation in PG (and consequently in PzC) was and afterthought and overall pretty bad. I'm pretty sure one could make a fun naval hex wargame (there are a number of hex tabletop wargames out there, and some aren't so bad, imo), but of course it would have to have massively different/improved mechanics from the old PG model.
Even for ground combat, the PG/PzC approach is struggling and can only "work" because most players are willing to cut the system some slack and disregard it's quirks.
As you say, it gets worse for aerial combat, and then even more worse for naval warfare.

Pacific General tried to address some of these issues, but didn't get very far, unfortunately.

But check out Bebro's excellent IJA campaign (just survive the first two missions SOMEHOW, they're bebro's "bouncers" deciding if you're worth to see the fun part of the campaign) - when you don't put too much emphasis on naval warfare, there's a lot of fun to be had in the pacific.

As for new content - my favorite 5 star game was actually Fantasy General - the metagame it brought to the table, hero units, unit research, spellcasting ... that all made for a nice change.
I could see something like this in a WW2 environment, a fantasy or a scific environment - but systems like these are what I'd love to see added to the franchise.
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rezaf

nikivdd · Post by **nikivdd** » Tue Apr 08, 2014 7:02 pm

jaggy wrote: I really do appreciate the effort put in by you and the other mod makers. Would you care to share what you are proposing to Slitherine? I know they are a small dev team but I feel Panzer Corps has the making of a really successful franchise. But if you take too long in making other Grand Campaigns , you risk losing potential customers because they may not be there if Slitherine does manage to get around making other GCs. Monkspider was asking about Soviet Corps testing since July 2013 and Slitherine is projecting Soviet Corps in late 2014? Which means if they intend to do a Grand Campaign at all, it will be in 2015?

Sorry, i can't disclose any information regarding this project. Once approved, Slitherine makes the necessary announcement and a call for beta testers.

ThorHa · Post by **ThorHa** » Tue Apr 08, 2014 7:07 pm

Rezaf, I'll buy a fantasy conversion any time of the day if its equally good as Fantasy General. It was my third most played game from SSI after PG I and PG 3D (German naming).

Regards,
Thorsten

rezaf · Post by **rezaf** » Tue Apr 08, 2014 7:28 pm

nikivdd wrote:Sorry, i can't disclose any information regarding this project. Once approved, Slitherine makes the necessary announcement and a call for beta testers.

Whatever it is, I'm sure it'll be worth having, with your name on it. Hopefully this will allow you to reap some (monetary) benefits for a change, as a token for all your outstanding modding efforts. I'll pick it up just to make sure a couple of bucks come your way.

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rezaf

jaggy · Post by **jaggy** » Wed Apr 09, 2014 12:31 am

@nikivdd - No problem.

@rezaf - I second what you say. Who knows, maybe it will accelerate the ETA (if there was ever one, in the first place) of Soviet Grand Campaigns and Allied Grand Campaigns.

bebro · Post by **bebro** » Wed Apr 09, 2014 7:28 am

Great to see you have something in the pipeline for us PzC addicts, NIco. I'm looking forward to your new content

No idea what the masses prefer, but personally I'd like to see more stuff played with other lead nations than Germany. If it's not limited strictly to WWII it could also be other conflicts roughly in the same timeframe, like the Spanish Civil War (ok, there's Germany in there, but at this point it has no super-weapons like Tigers etc, which I'd like for a change).

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