Peltasts

will05 · Post by **will05** » Sun Mar 09, 2008 8:42 pm

Hi
Anyone know whats going to happen with Peltasts. I see something called traditional Peltasts in the Pergamene list and they are given as light foot.

nikgaukroger · Post by **nikgaukroger** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 5:45 am

Peltasts who skirmish are LF. The later "peltasts" who had spears are classified as MF/HF Offensive Spear - these are the thyreophoroi types.

will05 · Post by **will05** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 1:54 pm

Thanks for that Nik

Jhykron · Post by **Jhykron** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 5:18 pm

nikgaukroger wrote:Peltasts who skirmish are LF. The later "peltasts" who had spears are classified as MF/HF Offensive Spear - these are the thyreophoroi types.

Do the FOG lists subscribe to Luke Ueda Sarson's hypotheses about the evolution of Hellenistic foot, then?

rbodleyscott · Post by **rbodleyscott** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 5:21 pm

Jhykron wrote:
nikgaukroger wrote:Peltasts who skirmish are LF. The later "peltasts" who had spears are classified as MF/HF Offensive Spear - these are the thyreophoroi types.
Do the FOG lists subscribe to Luke Ueda Sarson's hypotheses about the evolution of Hellenistic foot, then?

Yes

Jhykron · Post by **Jhykron** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 5:26 pm

rbodleyscott wrote:Yes

Cool. I'm not sure I buy the whole theory... I'm a bit fuzzy on his conclusions about terms like Euzonoi, and maybe even about how widespread the Iphikratean reforms acutally were, but as a whole it makes a lot more sense than what came before.

Agesilaus · Post by **Agesilaus** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 1:32 pm

Further to this, where would that put peltasts (Thracian and Greek) used by Greek Hoplite armies of the Peloponessian War era? I am wondering what I wil need to rebase? What about latr in the Macedonian armies? I was hoping to base up my peltasts in a way that could satisfy each list, if possible.

Also, what about the Ekidromoi reported in Spartan armies? LF or MF?

thanks

Scott Elaurant

nikgaukroger · Post by **nikgaukroger** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 6:04 pm

Peltasts of that period will be LF.

Ekdromoi - assuming I'm recalling correctly who they were - are not represented separately but subsumed within the hoplite BG; the fact that HF can sometimes catch evading LF allows for some of their effect IMO.