No Game-play or 'what if logic'! Rubbish!

[BiteNibbleChomp]

It must be time you started with the mods then.

- BNC

[Victor_K]

Yeah, but just started the DLC's over again. Only in 1940. So later in April...

[KeldorKatarn]

Jesus what an issue. Yeah the DLCs have problems. Up to the point that we invaded eastern Germany in the first scenario Poznan where we basically started at the eastern border of modern day germany. That was corrected in a patch somewhat.

So there's issues. But... don't forget this is a game that not only recreated and improved panzer general, it also gives you nearly 200 hours of gameplay in one go. And that for a ridiculously low price if you consider bang for the buck.

Are there illogical things in the DLCs? Sure there are. But don't go comparing the original Panzer General campaign to that. That campaign was full of crap.

Why e.g would you start Kharkov if you win at Stalingrad? How would that even be possible? That battle and Kursk were an immediate result of a desasterous loss at Stalingrad.

And you also could still go for a D-Day major and still get crap like Market Garden and Ardennes.
And what about D-Day AFTER you defeated the Russians? How on earth would that work? An ambhibious landing against an experienced army of over 80 divisions that comes back from the eastern front? Against the entire german luftwaffe that is no longer needed on that front? Against an industry that had 1 year to produce nothing but fighters because tanks are no longer needed at such a large number and no losses are taken anymore? Against a germany that doesn't have any fuel problems anymore since it controls all oil fields in the caucasus and has access to Iran? Really?

So don't get started on historical bullshit in campaigns That's really as old as the genre.
All I know is this game gives us huge loads of fun for a minimum prize. I've been playing it since it came out and I still haven't come close to finishing all the content even once.

So yeah, there are problems there, maybe future patches can even fix those. Who knows maybe one of the future DLCs will add more units for romania and the older DLC can be updated or something. I imagine this could happen after all content of all fronts has been released and one major gold pack is created to bring everything to the same level.

But for now I'm happy with what I got.

[rezaf]

Don't forget though that the basic idea (at least mine) was to make these additional hypothetical scenarios available as additional DLCs, not as free patches.
In other words, even more $$$ for Slitherine.

It simply isn't true that such hypothetical scenarios (within limitations) would not be possible, but I'm not going to spend any more time discussing it.
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rezaf

[Mark50]

So don't get started on historical bullshit in campaigns That's really as old as the genre.

I`m not sure if that rather coarse conclusion you came to was motivated by reading my post above, but if it was you need to read it again, along with the rest of the discussion. The topic here is lack of alternative paths for the DLC campaigns, not historical accuracy. In my post historical representation was alluded to only to show that one of the two officially given reasons by the DLC`s makers for following a single path (sticking to history) is already obsolete and that the only one that`s left is the amount of work needed for creating alternatives. Which, as rezaf said, nobody was asking to come for free. Anyway, debating this with the happy fans - who already have what they got in the existing DLC - is not going to change anything for the rest who wanted more so I`ll leave this discussion too.

[KeldorKatarn]

I didn't say alternative scenarios would not be welcome. i was merely commenting on the criticism about the historical accuracy of certain branches and scenarios. Also it is not just a matter of "let's do it" They guys have very limited personell resources and most if not all of those are probably working now on a Soviet Korps and maybe other projects. And I think a completely new product has priority over a new DLC that just offers some nice alternative paths that only hardcore fans even care about. most of the community would probably rather see a grand campaign for the allied side. Sure it is possible, but I doubt that right now it has priority. Also nobody is stopping you from offering to do them. From what I understand the guy who did most of the Grand Campaigns was also recruited from the community.