Overlord 2008 Demo Games

[bddbrown]

Hi,

Bob Medcraft organised a 25mm demonstration game of Field of Glory at the Overlord 2008 trade show in Abingdon. Myself, Lynda Fairhurst and David Fairhurst also took part making it two a aside with plenty help to answer questions. Battle report told as photos with comments at:
http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/bddbrown/ ... dDemoGames

Game 2 is a real see-saw and the final result is in the balance until the end.

This is the first time I have played 25mm in a long time - since 6th edition all those years ago. I had high hopes with FoG using the same move distances and terrain sizes. But in the end I was a little disappointed. Sure the figures are really gorgeous and look wondeful on the table. But the first game I was constantly underestimating the distances for things - the troops never seemed to move as fast as they should and I wonder if the choice of using the same move distances was a good one in theory, but in practise the casual 25mm player from 15mm is going to have more problems this way round. I certainly did and would not feel comfortable playing a competition in 25mm without serious practise beforehand. Still I cannot compare this to the experience under DBM as I never played 25mm in DBM. I also disliked the effectively smaller terrain sizes, which makes it more difficult for MF to take part in the game. We were playing on a 8x6 table which may account for it. But I don't really like the idea of 650 points on 6x4 - too few points leads to cheap troops like pikes being the goto troop type of choice - already seen in the 25mm competitions so far.

Also I have developed a taste for themed competitions and the army choices of 25mm players is more limited, so they tend to go for and get open periods. All in all I'm going to stick with 15mm, although I won't rule out another go with 25mm I'm not going to rush out and buy an army just yet!

Enjoy!

Bruce.

[viking123]

Thanks to David and Lynda and Bruce. We were using a 8' x 6' table as the army size was 800 point. I wanted top play 1000 points but told that was not on. But as you can see from the photos the games looked very impressive. A lot of interest.

Bob

[kustenjaeger]

Greetings

Looked good.

I have to say I haven't got the room for that size table and I'll probably stick to 15mm for FoG anyway. So would the theory be that to have an equivalent experience in 25mm using an 8' x 6' table one should experiment with 4cm MUs? That would also enlarge the terrain sizes?

Regards

[malekithau]

Yeah I agree as was raised during testing MU of 25mm/1 inch is not appropriate for 25/28mm.

[shall]

Really great battle report. I must learn how to do this.

Looking at the piccies I would say a much better plan deployment and use of generals in the second game for the Gauls - all critical to getting a result. 2nd game really could have gone either way.

Romans are a fantastic meat grinder if they get the upper hand as game 1 proved.

Warband/legionary smash is satisfyingly drawn out rather than a quick kill feel - which is realisitc. I suppose the most dramatic collapse was caused by those elite legionaries with the general inthe front rank - now that's overkill!! Having siad that the legions could have lost the impact phase easily and probably would have got swamped by numbers.

On the rules it seems all mechanics were nice but doubts over the use of current MUs. Do the player think this is just something that is unfamiliar givent hey play more 15mm. My sense was it changed the game to more head to head fights. Would it be better in the players view with a 40mm MU for 25mm?

Si

[viking123]

Certainly using 40mm MU's would have allowed the Cv to lap round more and may have given the Gallic an opportunity to get round the back of the Romans. Who knows what would have happened then.

Bob

[shall]

I have just finished rebasing my old Marian Romans in 25mm and redone their shields with transfers...

Rather pleased with them so I should get a few more 25mm games in soon - only done 2 so far.

Si