Demo Game Scores

[honvedseg]

Just for comparison purposes, and all that other good stuff, I'm wondering how other players did with the demo game? After replacing all losses from the last battle, I seem to consistently end up with around 7100 to 7500 points on the HARD setting. I've run through the mini-campaign to completion at least five times over the past two days, and found EASY to be a little too much so, and VERY HARD a little frustrating, where I had to play through each battle numerous times just to survive. HARD seems about right to me.

The demo should tide me over until next week, when I expect to order the full game.

[*Lava*]

Hi!

I could be wrong, but I don't think you can win the demo on very hard.

Or maybe it's just me...

Ray (alias Lava)

[duncan]

could be wrong, but I don't think you can win the demo on very hard.

Or maybe it's just me...

The last battle was a hell in hard, i didn't even try to fight in very hard

[venividivici]

For me I would have to agree that Normal felt easy on the demo battles and Hard felt about right. Very Hard was simply frustrating and time consuming and since I don't play games to be frustrated or stuck on the computer for hours when I could be doing something more constructive with my time I ditched the Very Hard battles.

Normal in the full game has so far been easy to play up to the point where I reached the late First Punic War battles then I had a problem with the battle of Baggradas which took me three attempts to win, all of the prior battles were winnable on the first attempt.

[IainMcNeil]

I'll be honest, I never managed the last battle in the demo on very hard either! I played 4-5 times, and tried different build up strategies up nothing worked. Well done to anyone who does it! Everything else was completed in testing.

[tora_tora_tora]

I'll be honest, I never managed the last battle in the demo on very hard either! I played 4-5 times, and tried different build up strategies up nothing worked. Well done to anyone who does it! Everything else was completed in testing.

In Japan, you cannnot buy one. I really want to do so, but Amazon jp do not sell it.
Maybe, I shoud go somewhere like 秋葉原(akihabara). But it's too far to get there.
So, I play demo for many times.

what I tested

three battle line infantry, so you recruite one legionary(800denari) or Royal guards(1200denari)
two archers(500denari each)
line three battle line infantries in defensive formation before woods in the right far down, but where still is open ground.
those javelin trowers and archers in the wood behind line infantries.
reserve cavalry far right and wait till enemy advance and attack your line.Once they got into melee,
(enemy first wave light infantries turn to right and move into column, and you can butcher light infantries with our heavy infantries.
one at a time.)
send Cav to kill enemy archers far behind.
Myabe, if I can have archers with stronger bows, or exeperienced archers with weakspot shooting, it will work.
But, it's really hard to archers to get experineced in Very Hard mode.
Or if I can withdraw our battle line infantries back behind our light infantries, and let them fight enemy heavy infantries in the woods.
But I don't know how to retreat them.

[anguille]

I'll be honest, I never managed the last battle in the demo on very hard either! I played 4-5 times, and tried different build up strategies up nothing worked. Well done to anyone who does it! Everything else was completed in testing.

In Japan, you cannnot buy one. I really want to do so, but Amazon jp do not sell it.
Maybe, I shoud go somewhere like 秋葉原(akihabara). But it's too far to get there.
So, I play demo for many times.

YES...YOU CAN BUY IT HERE!!!

[IainMcNeil]

Like Anguille says www.slitherine.com/shop/

We ship worldwide

[tora_tora_tora]

Like Anguille says www.slitherine.com/shop/

We ship worldwide

Thanks, but sorry, I'd like to buy if I can pay on delivery.
Or I shoud go Akihabara and buy one.

It's really good game, thanks.

[tora_tora_tora]

well, nobody write what they try.
so, I write.

what i tried today.
disband jvelin throwers at the first map. And recruite one Praetorian.
maybe, this is not a good method, you know to ignore what the game designers think, but I want to try.
anyway you have
general, legionary,legionary, cavalry, praetorian.
then you proceed maps, and recruite archer or light infantry.
But again you cannnot beat those second wave fanatics(naked sworddancers).

By the way, i played tutorial again. And learned how to reposition unit. SO, having enough command points, I can maneuve cavalry freely now.

[fatetriarrii]

I tried playing the demo all the way through without recruiting any new units or promotions, and got all the way to the last battle (on normal). Unfourtunately, my strategy in the end was:

Cavalry on the side slaughters enemy archers + hero (yes, I got him once!)
Legions fight on open terrain wtih flank "protected" by auxilia in the forest and skirmishers behind all.


Unfourtunately, my auxilia never lasted long enough and the heavy infantry tore up my cavalry. Once I even got down to 1 full morale + health (mostly) legion vs 2 half health enemyheavy infantry. I failed, though


I will try it on hard though, and post about it. Oh, and I don't have the game, but what they mean by "we ship everywhere" (in case you didn't read through it) is that you can DOWNLOAD the game (isn't that convenient?) If that doesn't work, though, i don't know what to do

[tora_tora_tora]

SO, there are many way to try.
without recruting new units
without promotions
without healing units.

Anyway, I decided to go and get one in Akibahara.
I want to fight those elephants.

[IainMcNeil]

Not sure what you mean about downloading? We ship the games worldwide in boxes, though we also supply digital downloads for those who want to play immediately.

[honvedseg]

I still haven't beaten the final Demo battle on VERY HARD, but the fame awarded at that difficulty setting is several times what the easier levels give you. I've come fairly close, and actually even survived the scenario, but ran out of time before being able to break the last enemy unit with the remnants of my last unit.

Meanwhile, I'm eagerly waiting for the full game to show up.

[tora_tora_tora]

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I tried this,too. And again Siege of Alecia is really hard.
Maybe, my legionaries need some rest before they confront enemy second wave heavy infantries.
Taking some rest and send them signal or rally, maybe some of them work, at least I hope so.
Or ,I should attack enemy first wave light infantires from the far left, Lv.2 one with cavalry. and after that manuvere them to attack enemy
skirmish archers.

[tora_tora_tora]

today I tried all cavalries, all legionaries
both worked at the normal level to the end.
BUt all archers cannot survive river crossing.

[fatetriarrii]

Oi! I will have a hard time on "very hard". Obviously, my strategy muscles are out of shape, because when I tried the FIRST BATTLE on very hard I failed terribly, and have been struggling to complete (haven't managed yet). This is a really hard game!, but fun and interesting, ty slitherine

I think I might need to get a couple of different starting units because my current ones aren't working.

[tora_tora_tora]

managed to succeed all archers, and now I'm trying all velites, all auxilias at normal level.
well, it's really hard to manage 19 velites(you can have 20 units, though you must have one general all the time, I guess),
But you can have whatever formation you want. It's such many.
And again, siege of Alesia is really hard.

In fact, I select one of archers as infantry in alternate and promote it as melee unit.
It's amazing to watch arrow rain shatter enemy first wave light linfantries.

[spedius01]

Ave tora_tora_tora,

I've read, with some sympathy and empathy, your plight and unspoken plea for help.

I have a few suggestions that you might like to try. Rembering always these are steps towards the "FINAL BATTLE".

1. Keeping your start-up army, get through map 1 and 2 without spending any money, ugrading and healing as necessary. Then recruit a unit of archers for 500 denari, followed by two units of cavalry over the next two maps. Spend your remaining money on Weapons grade 1 from equipment, for each of your two legionary squads. They will have to fight more than one enemy squad, maybe two, three or even four. There is no point keeping your money at this stage, so spend it where it will be most effective. Always make sure that all healing and promotions are completed before you press the campaign button.

2. For the final battle you have a Legate, two legionary, two auxilia, one velite, one archer and three cavalry squads, with no money and lots of experience. The enemy is arranged in four rows, six in the first, four in the next followed by two ones. Once you press the FIGHT button the front six will probably advance, the rest may be on short hold.

You are going to be attacking the first six enemy with four of yours! You will note that the left hand enemy unit is only level 2, this is a weak link, the rest are level 7! First, place your two auxilia as far forward as you can, directly opposite the enemy on each end of their front line. Their orders are charge, their formation is offensive. Using waypoints, position your attack point at the front of each of their bases. That leaves the four enemy in the middle, you are going to attack them with your two legionary squads. Once again place your two squads as far forward as you can, this time not directly opposite an opponent but between them. Place your waypoints between the left-hand pair for the first of your two legionary squads. Repeat the process for the right-hand pair. The legionaries' orders are charge, their formation is offensive.

Ok. you need to support your auxiliary squads who are attacking the two end enemy squads. Place your velites directly behind the left-hand auxiliary squad, their orders are advance and their formation is defensive. Then place your archers behind your auxilia on the right-hand side. Their orders are long hold and their formation is defensive. Place your Legate either along the side of your archers or behind them, his orders are long hold and his formation, as always, is balanced. Remember one of the conditions for victory is his survival!

Finally, you come to the three squads of cavalry. You are going to use them as the left hook to knock your opponent off balance. Place them, ONE BEHIND THE OTHER, on the extreme left edge of the map as far forward as you can. Their orders are envelop and their formations are offensive.

Be warned, your attack on the left is stronger than your attack on the right. Be prepared, initially to win on the left but have a tough time on the right. You will need to re-use the squads from the left and centre to win the battle.

All you need do now is push the FIGHT button. Be prepared to loose a couple of squads at least. This set-up, although not brilliant, should enable you to get through this mini-campaign with head held high and honour intact. Let me know how you get on.

Good luck.

Vale

M. Spedius Corbulo

NB. ALWAYS SAVE YOUR GAMES, SO IF YOU LOSE YOU CAN TRY AGAIN AND AGAIN, UNTIL YOU WIN!!!

[tora_tora_tora]

Thank you very much, spedius01.

I learned several important things from your suggestions.
So, one legionary can match two light infantires.
And also, I never used waypoints at the campaign preparation screen. In fact, The command I gave them is advance, charge, and long hold.
And most cases, I choose "long hold" and wait enemy to advance to my positions.
Even though My command is so primitive, thanks to luck, I can manage to succeed in Normal, and Hard level, and finished mini demo campaign.
But now, with your help, maybe I can finish with pure Auxilias, or even pure velites.