odd pivots

[deadtorius]

In our game today two odd situations occurred
First one: French artillery was within med range of my unit of Grenz. The French wanted to pivot so the Grenz were out of arc and a unit of horse artillery would be the only target. After they fired and it was my turn I was surprised to find out the French artillery was now within short range of my Grenzers. I had not moved but the pivot put the gun into a new range band to my unit. Was this a legal pivot since the range to the Grenzers changed, but they were not the target?

Second one: A large French battery had 3 Austrian units in its arc. We were fairly close but still at med range. The French pivoted but all 3 units remained in the French arc. Blathergut admitted the pivoting had been an attempt to move the battery all game since he either did not have points to try or had failed with his dice rolls to prolong the battery.
If the pivot results in the same targets as before the pivot, should it be taken back since no new targets are actually being brought into or out of the batteries arc?

[hazelbark]

In our game today two odd situations occurred
First one: French artillery was within med range of my unit of Grenz. The French wanted to pivot so the Grenz were out of arc and a unit of horse artillery would be the only target. After they fired and it was my turn I was surprised to find out the French artillery was now within short range of my Grenzers. I had not moved but the pivot put the gun into a new range band to my unit. Was this a legal pivot since the range to the Grenzers changed, but they were not the target?

Second one: A large French battery had 3 Austrian units in its arc. We were fairly close but still at med range. The French pivoted but all 3 units remained in the French arc. Blathergut admitted the pivoting had been an attempt to move the battery all game since he either did not have points to try or had failed with his dice rolls to prolong the battery.
If the pivot results in the same targets as before the pivot, should it be taken back since no new targets are actually being brought into or out of the batteries arc?

1 No i do not think so. If you look at text on the pivot you are not allowed to change someone else's range band as well.

2 You may pivot. This allows you to emphasize point of concentration of fire. i.e, where the center of your unit points.

[Blathergut]

Ah..I see the bit about "...or move it to a different band range of enemy capable of firing at it." Presumably you would try to move further away than closer, as happened. Not intentionally, but just didn't notice that the corner crept into within 2MU.

[deadtorius]

In future when we are close like that we will have to check ranges after the pivot. Would not have made much difference since the horse battery was the original target of the Hussars and they failed the CT to fire then run away, they never got a shot off in the end.