Commanders routing?

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Ghaznavid
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Commanders routing?

Post by Ghaznavid »

On page 110 it says that a commander who tries to rally a broken BG does not have to rout with them. This suggests that there are other tests that can cause the commander to rout. Yet I can't find anything about commanders and routs other then that however, maybe I missed it?

The rules are clear on the direct risk to a commander fighting in the front rank. It's also specified what a commander in a victorious BG can or can't do. However I can't find anything about what happens to a commander with a BG that breaks due to a failed cohesion test, autobreaks or is destroyed.
(In the destroyed case I could see the has to move or is lost rule applying... maybe.)


Thanks,

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Post by babyshark »

A commander who is with a BG that breaks must rout with them for their initial rout move. Unfortunately, I do not have my rule book with me here at work (it would be too conspicuous :twisted: ) so I cannot give you a page reference for that.

Not sure about the other, related, questions you posed.

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Post by Ghaznavid »

Thanks, found the passage. So the only somewhat unclear point is if the BG the commander is with gets destroyed completely.
(Although I find it a little odd that a commander that fought in the front rank can simply leave after a initial route move if the BG broke. But ok, you can beat everything to death with to much detail.)
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Post by neilhammond »

Ghaznavid wrote:... So the only somewhat unclear point is if the BG the commander is with gets destroyed completely.
Its covered on p 49/50 under Movement of Commanders - last bullet. If the BG is destroyed & removed the commander is left behind. If in contact with enemy at that time, or the enemy subsequently moves into it or shoots it, it immediately joins a friendly unit within reach. If no friendly unit, the commander is lost.
Ghaznavid wrote:... Although I find it a little odd that a commander that fought in the front rank can simply leave after a initial route move if the BG broke.
He's at risk during the initial rout (if the enemy stays in contact). He can then leave in the next turn.
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Post by shall »

And greater risk

Basically as an aide memoire is 12 to kill a general whose BG you didn't beat =x
11+ to kill one with BG you did beat = 3 X

Bothe above subject to doing at least 2 hits

10+ to kill a general routing with BG you are in pursuit contact with = 6X

Thereafter he runs away if still alive. He cannot leave combat until it is resolved so if you lose the BG he is commtted to a prusuit roll. Note that Autobreaks are done at the end of the JAP so they will rout first then get rmoved.

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