Unit Badges

[asuser]

Badge Panel updated!

Greetings!

[guille1434]

Good new badges! Thanks for hearing my request!! And also for sharing your excellent work here!!!

[cedonxp]

I will do my best ...

And now ... it is time to strengthen the air defense. After much research it was possible to construct the stable and accurately flying air defense missile "Rheintochter". The missile is controlled by radio signals. To equip larger units we initially fitted first a secret test command, the Ground/Air Rocket Battalion 1. The enemy was already completely surprised and shot down pilots spoke of a flak hell on earth...

It would be great if someone launching a new attack graphic and sound for this weapon ...

In another thread i asked about the function for this baby and most of all there was the recommendation to us it as a flak weapon and not as a kamikaze thing (like V1, V2), so here it is:

Rheintochter_Bat.png

3, 2, 1 - Fire!


To be continued...

Try these. I had a hard time finding SFX that were short enough/ But these might work.
http://www.sendspace.com/filegroup/XjSp ... TuVh1v28Z2

[asuser]

Hello cedonxp,

thank you for your help! I will try it in my files in the next days.

In the meantime, we can something learn about the infrared nightfighting technology from the new Sperber/UHU II (sparrowhawk/owl) system in combination with the mighty Krupp Löwe tank:

Anyone, who has ever asked, how a infrared nightfighting device works with a tank, can now see it on the following example from the Sealion front, south coast of England. Shown is an original photoshot of a Krupp Löwe tank landed last week (in the night!!!) near Portsmouth (place and time are secret). The basic principle is that the enemy target is illuminated with a specific infrared wave light source (fitted on the illumination unit), which is for the normal eye invisible. The receiving device (fitted on the battle tank) is able to recognize the illuminated target. Thus it is possible even in the dark or at night or in bad weather. While with the older system I the picture is dark and unshape and the targets can be detected to a maximum of 800 m, the system II has a much greater accuracy and a target recording up to 1800 m. In the pictures below, the difference between the Sperber/UHU I system (mostly used on the Panther tank and SdKfz 251) and system II is now clearly visible. The photos were taken in parallel from another Krupp Löwe tank and with an older device from the Panther tank: Picture 1 show as an example the landed tank with an distance of 300 m and the appropriate magnification with the older system I and picture 2 show the same tank with the new system II. The last photo was made with a normal camera in near distance and subsequently brightened in the photo lab after that to demonstrate how the tank would have looked on the day. Now see the difference!

Picture1:

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Picture2:

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Picture3:

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What a beautiful clear target picture the tank commander now has!

Greetings!

[asuser]

Hello cedonxp, unfortunately, the download link does not work, could you please provide the sound files directly?

In the meantime:
After command has successfully completed the tests, reported a kill to firing rate of 92%, the first fully equipped ground/air rocket battalion 2 is now (number 1 is reserved for the test command) put into service. The battalion consists (strength) of 10 companies with the uniform badge for all subsequent battalions. The structure is therefore as follows: 0 (no regiment), 2 (Battalion), 1 ... 10 (Company). As a strength for the company can be scheduled 10 ... 15. This also depends on where these units are used. At the front these are rather less, for the defense of cities or larger objects rather more units. The first three companies now see as follows with the camouflaged style:

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In the next post, I present the badge structure for aircraft units on the example of Jagdgeschwader 1 ...

[asuser]

Badge Panel updated! Badge of GFS 1 was to big.

Greetings!

[asuser]

The proposed structure for badges I would like to present with an example of a German fighter squadron. As a source a lot of very good books (eg German fighter planes in coloured profiles by Sundin/Bergström, Eric Mombeeks book "Defending the Reich- The History of Jagdgeschwader 1 OSEAU" and some of the very good Osprey titles like Fw 190 Aces of the Western Front) and of course the information from the Internet were used.
The composition of a fighter wing of the Luftwaffe consisted essentially of the structure from top to bottom:
Jagdgeschwader-Gruppe-Staffel (Squadron-group-platoon). This would be compared to ground units equated with Regiment-Battalion-Company. The squadron contains three or four groups, one group contains three or four platoons and a platoon contains 10...12 aircrafts. The squadron was completed by a staff unit, each included 1...3 aircraft. So in literature there is a different display of the unit structure to observe. With I./JG1 it is to define the first group of squadron 1 and 1./JG1 it is to define the first platoon (of the first group). With this definition you have I, II, III (IV) for groups and 1. … 9. (12) for the platoons in following order.

Display the structure for the badge is now possible with different variants. In addition to the well-known badges of the fighter squadron there where also still partially separate badges for each individual group. Probably the most colorful and unique unit markings ever applied to the Focke Wulf Fw 190A were JG 1’s platoon and group markings. The practice of applying recognition markings to the cowl of the Fw 190 was not unique to JG 1. Yellow undercowls were used extensively on all fronts by mid 1941. In the summer of 1943, checkered patterns were adopted by I./JG 1 for their Fw 190As. So there are many possibilities if using both badges. This could mean, if you use the badge for the squadron and you want to show the first platoon of the first group, you could deal with the number sequence 0 (squadron is defined by the badge), 1 (group), 1 (platoon). When using the badge for the group, it could also be that this group is allocated to another squadron. To define it here it would be then choose as follows: 1 (squadron), 0 (group is defined by the badge), 1 (platoon). If that's too complicated, you can also omit the number and try to paint the badge directly on the plane.

For a further distinction of the groups and squadrons you can also use different types of the Fw 190 A 1 ... 8. This relates primarily to the differently used machine guns, additional armor, bulges at prominent locations of the fuselage and possibilities for external loads such as drop tanks or cannon boxes.

So with this said here are some examples of the group leader of group 1 (staff unit), an alternative painted plane of platoon leader of platoon 1 with a drop tank and a plane from group 2 (platoon 5) with the well known “Tatzelwurm” insignia on the engine cowl. There could also be a change for the setting of the badge numbers around the badge.

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Have fun!

[hs1611]

Jagdgeschwader-Gruppe-Staffel (Squadron-group-platoon).

Just a small correction. The Luftwaffe units equivalency to allied Air Forces is not correct.
Unfortunately even the allies could not agree on their unit designations.

Leaving aside larger formations the operational unit designators were:
- RAF: Groups, with several Wings, with several Squadrons, with several Flights.
- USAAF: Wings, with several Groups, with several Squadrons, with several Flights.

Personaly I like the British designators better, so I name my German Air Units thus:

Geschwader (Group) - ex. Jagdgeschwader 1 - JG 1
Gruppe (Wing) - ex. Jagdgeschwader 1, I Gruppe - I/JG 1
Staffel (Squadron) - ex. Jagdgeschwader 1, II Gruppe, 4 Staffel - 4/JG 1 (Staffeln were numbered, starting at 1, in sequence throughout the entire Geschwader. Assuming I Gruppe had 3 Staffeln, the 1st Staffel in II Gruppe would be numbered 4)
Stab (Flight) - I don't use Flights in my TOE and can't remember how they were represented.

I've seen this designators with "." before "/" and without, so I don't really know which one is correct, I/JG 1 or I./JG 1, maybe both. I like the first one better and so use it like that.

[asuser]

Hello hs1611,

thanks for your feedback. Nice to see that my article found some interest.

You are absolutely right, my definition for unit structure was a little bit rough. Sometimes it's difficult to find the right translation from the german original definition of units, structures and other things to the equivalent names of the allied troops. So use your recommended definitions...

Greetings!

[hs1611]

Hello hs1611,

thanks for your feedback. Nice to see that my article found some interest.

I have been following this thread with interest, and I believe I'm not the only one. Anything to improve the game, either gameplay or simply flavour like this proposal, is of interest to me.
I already use a few Flavour MODS and won't go back to Vanilla.

Sometimes it's difficult to find the right translation from the german original definition of units, structures and other things to the equivalent names of the allied troops.

Eh! Even the allies couldn't agree with each other.
It's not really important. We could leave the original names, like 1st Panzer ID or wathever. It wouldn't change gameplay, but it wouldn't feel right either.
Anyway, whatever works for you is fine.

[guille1434]

Yes! Nice thread, and it gives us stuff to give more "flavour" to our beloved game! Thumbs up!

PS: I absolutely love how much detail are included in all the icons uploaded here!

[T2_2112]

asuser NICE !! Love it

[asuser]

Badge Panel (side 2) updated!

Greetings!

[asuser]

…26th July 1945, Operation Sealion is in full swing. Today is the big day of RAF, masses of Spitfires are in the air over Essex and Bristol. Roaring engines, loud rattle of machine guns, elongated plumes of downed fighter planes - on both sides! The happy returned Oberleutnant Hacker reported quite exhausted: “... We were at 2000 m altitude, as the enemy machines fell upon us. I think there were mainly Spitfires, but different types such Mk.V and the other, the Mk.XII and Mk.XIV. There were very good pilots, especially the Polish pilots, these were from the 303. squadron, who shocked us mighty. My flight leader was shot down first, the right wing of his Messerschmitt was sawed off literally! I get first a few hits in the wings, then I nosedive to 400 meters down, but there was already a Spitfire, with these short wings, which then has caught me a few times in the engine, so I had to bail out, today - damn tough day...”

Member hs1611 was right as he said, the structure of the air units from RAF and USAF are different to the structure of the Luftwaffe. For RAF there is the top down count: Group-Wing-Squadron. And interestingly, the squadron includes up to 16 fighter planes. So here is an example of three different squadrons with their own badges from squadron 41, 74 and 303 and luckily without the numbers (because it’s the lowest level).

In February 1943 the squadrons 41 and later the 91 became the first in the RAF to operate a Griffon powered Spitfire when it received the first Mk.XIIs and later the Mk.XIV. These were used to combat the latest spate of low level attacks by bomb carrying FW190s and Bf109s as well as the usual shipping patrols and bomber escorts. From April to June 1944 it operated against targets in northern France and from June it was involved in 'Operation Crossbow' defending the South-East of England against V1 flying bombs. Squadron with No. 303 was the most effective Polish RAF squadron during the Second World War.

And here are the heroes of the day:

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Thanks for the basic icons from Guille for the Mk.V and airbornemongo101 / bebro for the Mk.XIV from the Elite Units Mod, the Mk.XII is a selfcreated one.

Greetings!

[asuser]

Badge Panel (side 2) updated!

Greetings!

[bt2steam]

greetings im just wondering how to paste those incredible badges to the icons kinda of a "how to " i just want to make my own ss div's,sqdrns, etc... for ss-gtpg, elites etc.. makes the replay of this great game even more fun ty.

[asuser]

...Yes, that's a great thing with the badges. Unfortunately we have to wait for a special patch to set the badge directly on the icon in a scenario/campaign. For my scenarios I load my units in a graphics program (GIMP, Photoshop...) and then put the badge on the icon. Other suggestions welcome.

[bt2steam]

Well ill just have to wait for that "special patch/mod lol im not good at messing with stuff like that, however making killer combos with those badges have the stugg cammo foilage,with grenadiers on the side all in unique cammo patterns.the possibilities are limitless! thank you for all your hard work. you make this game more historicaly attractive.

[asuser]

Thank you for the positive feedback. Without that, i would stop this theme (too time consuming but the badge panel is'nt already filled) and go to the real modding - making new or updated units together with my friend Guille. One important question comes around again:

Should I fill only the badge panel or publish further active units with badges (eg. also realize some special wishes like StuG with foliage, infantry support and other things from the XX. Tank Division)? Also important: Does anybody need or miss a special badge from a famous unit?

Btw. Badge Panel (side 2) updated!

Greetings!

[Ballermann]

Also important: Does anybody need or miss a special badge from a famous unit?

First good work, i like it.

Yes i miss the badges in big.
I want them to put it, in the UI-Picture.