GJS'44 Campaign Main Thread - Final June 16th 1944 Tournamen

[Honour79]

Rumors say that the allies have run out of underwear waiting for the German counter-attack...

[LandMarine47]

Rumors say that the allies have run out of underwear waiting for the German counter-attack...

No wonder there were so many on the Street I thought some one blew up a supply drop.

[GottaLove88s]

Orders received from both sides
Will be merged this morning
No further changes accepted

Start your engines, gentlemen...

GERMAN ORDERS AS RECEIVED

Anyway, here are the German orders with assigned commanders:

1. II/22/21 attack but not move to Abbaye d'Ardenne (Morge)
2. 192/21 move to Trungy via Rauray (Honour)
3. I/12/12SS moves to Tilly-Sur-Seulles via Juvigny (Landmarine)
4. II/12/12SS move to Bretteville via Putot-en-Bessin (Honour)
5. 125/21 moves to Tilly la Campagne (Morge)
6. 26/12SS moves to Vimont (Morge)
7. 25/12SS move to Pegasus Bridge via Colombelles (Mlazar)
8. 858/346 re-org by sending all units to 26/12SS in Vimont (Morge)
9. Ost 642/716 moves to Vimont and merge with 26/12SS (Morge)
10. 915/352 moves to Merville-Franceville (Mlazar)
11. 914/352 stay in Pegasus Bridge (Mlazar)
12. II/736/716 stay in Lebisey Woods (Landmarine)
13. II/744/711 stay in Bayeux (Cavehobbit)

Bonuses (in addition to Promote and Resupply (and Medic and Rally for SS-BG's)) :
914/352 -- Arty, Medic, Rally
II/22/21 -- Arty, Rally
II/744/711 -- Arty, Medic

ALLIED ORDERS AS RECEIVED

Below are the revised Prioritized Order List and Bonus Allocations List.

Execute GM.

Prioritized Order List
1. 2CDN Armor/RBlancha/ move to Trungy
2. 131/7 Armor/CoreySr/ Rauray via Thaon
3. 1/79 Armor Elite/iProp/Attack Do Not Move Lebisey Woods
4. 8/3 MechInf/iProp/Transfers: send 2 Cromwells and 2 Shermans to 22/7 Armor
5. 27/3 Armor/Jcb989/Attack Do Not Move Bretteville
6. 30/79 Armor Elite/RBlancha/Attack Do Not Move Pegasus Bridge
7. 9/3CDN Inf/CoreySr/ Move to Buron
8. 5AL/6ABN Infantry Elite/ProtectiveDaddy/Move to Perriers Ridge
9. 70/49 Inf /Guardsman/Land at Gold and Move to Creully
10. 22/7 Armor / Ranger/Transfers: send 1 AA and 2 Cromwell to 6AL/6ABN
11. 5AL/6ABN Infantry Elite/ProtectiveDaddy/Attack Do Not Move Pegasus Bridge
12. 8/3 MechInf / iProp / Attack Do Not Move Bretteville
13. 146/49 Inf/Ranger/Land at Juno Beach and Move to Hillman Battery
14. 9/3 MechInf/Ranger/move to-Attack Bayeux
15. 9/3CDN Inf/CoreySr/ Move to – Attack Lebisey Woods (per order #7, via Buron)
16. 185/3 Infantry/ProtectiveDaddy/Move to Benouville (CounterAttack)
17. 6AL / 6 ABN Elite/Jcb989/Hold and defend CAEN
18. 22/7Armor/ Ranger / Move to Caen (counterattack if Caen / 6AL/6ABN falls)
19. 231/50 MechInf/Ranger/ Land at, and take Ouistreham
20. 231/50 MechInf/Ranger/ merge all units with 30/79 Armor or 185/3 Infantry in Benouville

Bonus Allocation List
2CDN Armor/resupply medic
9/3 MechInf/ resupply
131/7 Armor/ resupply
27/3 Armor/ resupply
70/49 Inf / resupply
8/3 MechInf / resupply rally
22/7 Armor / resupply medic rally artillery
6AL / 6 ABN Elite/ resupply medic rally artillery typhoon
1/79 Armor Elite/ resupply medic rally artillery typhoon
9/3CDN Inf/ resupply
146/49 Inf/ resupply
30/79 Armor Elite/ resupply medic rally
185/3 Infantry/ resupply naval guns
231/50 MechInf/ resupply
5AL/6ABN Infantry Elite/ resupply medic rally naval guns

[GottaLove88s]

COMBINED ORDERS FOR JUNE 11th
P-A Pls update our Strat Map

Germans win the dice throw and take the first move...

1. II/22/21 attack but not move to Abbaye d'Ardenne (Morge) - OK, ASD in ABBAYE
1. 2CDN Armor/RBlancha/ move to Trungy - OK, ME in TRUNGY

2. 192/21 move to Trungy via Rauray (Honour) - OK, ME in TRUNGY
2. 131/7 Armor/CoreySr/ Rauray via Thaon - OK

3. I/12/12SS moves to Tilly-Sur-Seulles via Juvigny (Landmarine) - OK
3. 1/79 Armor Elite/iProp/Attack Do Not Move Lebisey Woods - OK, AFD in LEBISEY

4. II/12/12SS move to Bretteville via Putot-en-Bessin (Honour) - OK (relieves 192/21 in BRETTEVILLE)
4. 8/3 MechInf/iProp/Transfers: send 2 Cromwells and 2 Shermans to 22/7 Armor - OK

5. 125/21 moves to Tilly la Campagne (Morge) - OK
5. 27/3 Armor/Jcb989/Attack Do Not Move Bretteville - AFD in BRETTEVILLE

6. 26/12SS moves to Vimont (Morge) - OK
6. 30/79 Armor Elite/RBlancha/Attack Do Not Move Pegasus Bridge - OK, AFD in PEGASUS

7. 25/12SS move to Pegasus Bridge via Colombelles (Mlazar) - Only possible if 914/352 retreats or is dissolved
7. 9/3CDN Inf/CoreySr/ Move to Buron - OK

8. 858/346 re-org by sending all units (6) to 26/12SS in Vimont (Morge) - OK (858/346 eliminated)
8. 5AL/6ABN Infantry Elite/ProtectiveDaddy/Move to Perriers Ridge - OK

9. Ost 642/716 moves to Vimont and merge (5 units) with 26/12SS (Morge) - OK (Ost 642/716 eliminated)
9. 70/49 Inf /Guardsman/Land at Gold and Move to Creully - OK

10. 915/352 moves to Merville-Franceville (Mlazar) - OK
10. 22/7 Armor / Ranger/Transfers: send 1 AA and 2 Cromwell to 6AL/6ABN - Cancelled because 22/7 is under attack

11. 914/352 stay in Pegasus Bridge (Mlazar) - OK, AFD in PEGASUS
11. 5AL/6ABN Infantry Elite/ProtectiveDaddy/Attack Do Not Move Pegasus Bridge - OK, AFD in PEGASUS (possibly ME if 914/352 loses earlier)

12. II/736/716 stay in Lebisey Woods (Landmarine) - OK, AFD in LEBISEY
12. 8/3 MechInf / iProp / Attack Do Not Move Bretteville - AFD in BRETTEVILLE

13. II/744/711 stay in Bayeux (Cavehobbit) - OK, AFD in BAYEUX (II/744/711 is red OOS)
13. 146/49 Inf/Ranger/Land at Juno Beach and Move to Hillman Battery - OK

14. 9/3 MechInf/Ranger/move to-Attack Bayeux - OK, AFD in BAYEUX
15. 9/3CDN Inf/CoreySr/ Move to – Attack Lebisey Woods - OK, AFD in LEBISEY
16. 185/3 Infantry/ProtectiveDaddy/Move to Benouville (CounterAttack) - Only executed if 30/79 has <8 units (max 32 in any BG)
17. 6AL / 6 ABN Elite/Jcb989/Hold and defend CAEN - OK
18. 22/7Armor/ Ranger / Move to Caen (counterattack if Caen / 6AL/6ABN falls) - Cancelled because 22/7 has already been attacked
19. 231/50 MechInf/Ranger/ Land at, and take Ouistreham - OK
20. 231/50 MechInf/Ranger/ merge all units with 30/79 Armor or 185/3 Infantry in Benouville - Only executed if Benouville has <30 units (max 32)

[GottaLove88s]

CONFIRMED BATTLES - JUNE 11th

ABBAYE d'ARDENNE - ASD - II/22/21 (Morge4) attack/no move 22/7 (Ranger) - cancelling 22/7s re-inforcement of Caen and subsequent move
TRUNGY - Meeting Engagement - 2CDN (Rblancha) vs 192/21 (Honour79)
LEBISEY WOODS - AFD - 1/79 (iProp) attack/no move II/736/716 (Landmarine)
BRETTEVILLE - AFD - 27/3 (Jcb) attack/no move reliving II/12/12SS (Honour79)
PEGASUS - AFD - 30/79 (Rblancha) attack/no move 914/352 (Mlazar)
BAYEUX - AFD - 9/3 (Ranger) attack II/744/711 (Cavehobbit)

POTENTIAL BATTLES

5al/6 in Pegasus?
25/12SS in Pegasus?
8/3 in Bretteville?
9/3cdn in Lebisey?

[GottaLove88s]

We have maps for Abbaye, Pegasus & Bayeux...

But I need to complete partial maps for Trungy, Lebisey and Bretteville...
Should be done by Monday, but max one week...

Zoom in on the Strat Map to get an idea of the terrain you should expect...

TRUNGY is split by a Y-shaped river, with lots of hedgerow...

BRETTEVILLE is also split by a river and the Caen-Bayeux highway, half the map is hedgerow, half is fairly open...

LEBISEY is fairly open, with surprise, surprise, a large area of woodland surrounding the key crossroads, and the outskirts of Caen to the south...

[GottaLove88s]

Commanders, Recommend you familiarise yourself with your (and your opponents') force selection choices in the OOB (Order of Battle).

P-A, Pls remind us of the link? Thanks!

[cavehobbit]

OOB: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/535 ... %20OOB.xls

I'll upload the new strat map as soon as I can, probably in a couple of hours

[cavehobbit]

CONFIRMED BATTLES - JUNE 11th

TRUNGY - Meeting Engagement - 2CDN (Rblancha) vs 192/21 (Honour79)
LEBISEY WOODS - AFD - 1/79 (iProp) attack/no move II/736/716 (Landmarine)
BRETTEVILLE - AFD - 27/3 (Jcb) attack/no move reliving II/12/12SS (Honour79)
PEGASUS - AFD - 30/79 (Rblancha) attack/no move 914/352 (Mlazar)
BAYEUX - AFD - 9/3 (Ranger) attack II/744/711 (Cavehobbit)

POTENTIAL BATTLES

5al/6 in Pegasus?
25/12SS in Pegasus?
8/3 in Bretteville?
9/3cdn in Lebisey?

Jon, you forgot Abbaye:

ABBAYE - ASD - II/22/21 (Morge) attack/no move 22/7 (Ranger)

This should cancel Allied order 10.

10. 22/7 Armor / Ranger/Transfers: send 1 AA and 2 Cromwell to 6AL/6ABN - OK

[GottaLove88s]

Good spot P-A! Corrected as above/below... Abbaye is an ASD because the defending unit issued a move order of its own...

CONFIRMED BATTLES - JUNE 11th

ABBAYE d'ARDENNE - ASD - II/22/21 (Morge4) attack/no move 22/7 (Ranger) - cancelling 22/7s re-inforcement of Caen and subsequent move
TRUNGY - Meeting Engagement - 2CDN (Rblancha) vs 192/21 (Honour79)
LEBISEY WOODS - AFD - 1/79 (iProp) attack/no move II/736/716 (Landmarine)
BRETTEVILLE - AFD - 27/3 (Jcb) attack/no move reliving II/12/12SS (Honour79)
PEGASUS - AFD - 30/79 (Rblancha) attack/no move 914/352 (Mlazar)
BAYEUX - AFD - 9/3 (Ranger) attack II/744/711 (Cavehobbit)

POTENTIAL BATTLES

5al/6 in Pegasus?
25/12SS in Pegasus?
8/3 in Bretteville?
9/3cdn in Lebisey?

Jon, you forgot Abbaye:

ABBAYE - ASD - II/22/21 (Morge) attack/no move 22/7 (Ranger)

This should cancel Allied order 10.

10. 22/7 Armor / Ranger/Transfers: send 1 AA and 2 Cromwell to 6AL/6ABN - OK

[cavehobbit]

Good spot P-A! Corrected as above/below... Abbaye is an ASD because the defending unit issued a move order of its own...

CONFIRMED BATTLES - JUNE 11th

ABBAYE d'ARDENNE - ASD - II/22/21 (Morge4) attack/no move 22/7 (Ranger) - cancelling 22/7s re-inforcement of Caen and subsequent move
TRUNGY - Meeting Engagement - 2CDN (Rblancha) vs 192/21 (Honour79)
LEBISEY WOODS - AFD - 1/79 (iProp) attack/no move II/736/716 (Landmarine)
BRETTEVILLE - AFD - 27/3 (Jcb) attack/no move reliving II/12/12SS (Honour79)
PEGASUS - AFD - 30/79 (Rblancha) attack/no move 914/352 (Mlazar)
BAYEUX - AFD - 9/3 (Ranger) attack II/744/711 (Cavehobbit)

POTENTIAL BATTLES

5al/6 in Pegasus?
25/12SS in Pegasus?
8/3 in Bretteville?
9/3cdn in Lebisey?

Jon, you forgot Abbaye:

ABBAYE - ASD - II/22/21 (Morge) attack/no move 22/7 (Ranger)

This should cancel Allied order 10.

10. 22/7 Armor / Ranger/Transfers: send 1 AA and 2 Cromwell to 6AL/6ABN - OK

This also interrupts Allied order 4. ? Will only happens if 22/7 wins?

4. 8/3 MechInf/iProp/Transfers: send 2 Cromwells and 2 Shermans to 22/7 Armor - OK

[GottaLove88s]

This also interrupts Allied order 4. ? Will only happens if 22/7 wins?

4. 8/3 MechInf/iProp/Transfers: send 2 Cromwells and 2 Shermans to 22/7 Armor - OK

Hmmm... P-A, you've found a loophole in the rules that I'll need to fix...

Technically, this situation could be resolved in two ways...

1. The Allies ordered a brigade re-org, sending a small party of units to reinforce a neighbour... so, theoretically, that could still be executed, even if the neighbouring BG they're supposed to be reinforcing loses... The new arrivals would arrive into one heck of a welcome tho...

or 2. the gentler option, would be to permit the Allies to auto-cancel their brigade re-org should the destination BG no longer be where it's supposed to be.

I'm minded to go with the latter (nicer) interpretation... Thanks for the German co-operation

[cavehobbit]

This also interrupts Allied order 4. ? Will only happens if 22/7 wins?

4. 8/3 MechInf/iProp/Transfers: send 2 Cromwells and 2 Shermans to 22/7 Armor - OK

Hmmm... P-A, you've found a loophole in the rules that I'll need to fix...

Technically, this situation could be resolved in two ways...

1. The Allies ordered a brigade re-org, sending a small party of units to reinforce a neighbour... so, theoretically, that could still be executed, even if the neighbouring BG they're supposed to be reinforcing loses... The new arrivals would arrive into one heck of a welcome tho...

or 2. the gentler option, would be to permit the Allies to auto-cancel their brigade re-org should the destination BG no longer be where it's supposed to be.

I'm minded to go with the latter (nicer) interpretation... Thanks for the German co-operation

Alternative 2. looks fine! The re-org will of course happens if 22/7 wins I guess? That sounds reasonable to me.

So far I've been co-operative, but now I'm gonna be a bit grumpy...

13. II/744/711 stay in Bayeux (Cavehobbit) - OK, AFD in BAYEUX (II/744/711 is red OOS)

I would argue that II/744/711 is orange OOS. According to the maps it still could trace a line of supply at the end of June 9th. It was first June 10th it was cut off. Looking at the rules it may be that I changed status too early at it should be yellow today, as you check sector control at the beginning of each day:

8.14 Sector control for each day is determined before that day's moves are made, ie. it will take one day to retake a sector (and to re-establish supply lines).
8.2 All units must be able to trace a continuous path of controlled sectors to a source of supplies.

Sorry for referring to the rules, but I got to help my poor Bayeux defenders the best I can...

[GottaLove88s]

Ok, let's review... Show me the maps for each day... It shouldn't have gone yellow frame until it was isolated, orange frame isolated for 2 turns, red frame isolated for >= 3 turns and OOS until new supply line connected... I wonder why it was showing as orange frame last turn?

[cavehobbit]

Ok, let's review... Show me the maps for each day... It shouldn't have gone yellow frame until it was isolated, orange frame isolated for 2 turns, red frame isolated for >= 3 turns and OOS until new supply line connected... I wonder why it was showing as orange frame last turn?

It was my fault to turn it orange. I think I turned it yellow as soon it was cut off when the June 10th orders were revealed, instead of making it yellow before todays orders were revealed.

This is map showing positions at the end of June 9th:


Map showing positions after June 10th orders were revealed. 2CDN moved from Thaon to Tilly. Here I didn't have the yellow edge:


But after the first battle I wrongly yellowed the BG:


And at the end of the June 10th battles I changed (wrongly again) to orange. I'm sorry for causing this confusion

[cavehobbit]

OOB and strat map updated.

It took a while to get it all right (if I did, please check ).

OOB: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/535 ... %20OOB.xls

Strat Map:

[Ranger]

The German attack against the 22/7 Armor at Abbaye d' Ardenne should be an "Attack Against A Fortified Defense" and not as ASD as marked on your map.

OOB and strat map updated.

It took a while to get it all right (if I did, please check ).

OOB: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/535 ... %20OOB.xls

Strat Map:

[cavehobbit]

The German attack against the 22/7 Armor at Abbaye d' Ardenne should be an "Attack Against A Fortified Defense" and not as ASD as marked on your map.

I'm sorry to disappoint you viewtopic.php?f=87&t=38844&start=1680#p412746

[Ranger]

Shouldn't the attack on Abbaye be an AFD instead of an ASD?
22/7 Armor wasn't given any orders to move anywhere.

COMBINED ORDERS FOR JUNE 11th
P-A Pls update our Strat Map

Germans win the dice throw and take the first move...

1. II/22/21 attack but not move to Abbaye d'Ardenne (Morge) - OK, ASD in ABBAYE
1. 2CDN Armor/RBlancha/ move to Trungy - OK, ME in TRUNGY

2. 192/21 move to Trungy via Rauray (Honour) - OK, ME in TRUNGY
2. 131/7 Armor/CoreySr/ Rauray via Thaon - OK

3. I/12/12SS moves to Tilly-Sur-Seulles via Juvigny (Landmarine) - OK
3. 1/79 Armor Elite/iProp/Attack Do Not Move Lebisey Woods - OK, AFD in LEBISEY

4. II/12/12SS move to Bretteville via Putot-en-Bessin (Honour) - OK (relieves 192/21 in BRETTEVILLE)
4. 8/3 MechInf/iProp/Transfers: send 2 Cromwells and 2 Shermans to 22/7 Armor - OK

5. 125/21 moves to Tilly la Campagne (Morge) - OK
5. 27/3 Armor/Jcb989/Attack Do Not Move Bretteville - AFD in BRETTEVILLE

6. 26/12SS moves to Vimont (Morge) - OK
6. 30/79 Armor Elite/RBlancha/Attack Do Not Move Pegasus Bridge - OK, AFD in PEGASUS

7. 25/12SS move to Pegasus Bridge via Colombelles (Mlazar) - Only possible if 914/352 retreats or is dissolved
7. 9/3CDN Inf/CoreySr/ Move to Buron - OK

8. 858/346 re-org by sending all units (6) to 26/12SS in Vimont (Morge) - OK (858/346 eliminated)
8. 5AL/6ABN Infantry Elite/ProtectiveDaddy/Move to Perriers Ridge - OK

9. Ost 642/716 moves to Vimont and merge (5 units) with 26/12SS (Morge) - OK (Ost 642/716 eliminated)
9. 70/49 Inf /Guardsman/Land at Gold and Move to Creully - OK

10. 915/352 moves to Merville-Franceville (Mlazar) - OK
10. 22/7 Armor / Ranger/Transfers: send 1 AA and 2 Cromwell to 6AL/6ABN - Cancelled because 22/7 is under attack

11. 914/352 stay in Pegasus Bridge (Mlazar) - OK, AFD in PEGASUS
11. 5AL/6ABN Infantry Elite/ProtectiveDaddy/Attack Do Not Move Pegasus Bridge - OK, AFD in PEGASUS (possibly ME if 914/352 loses earlier)

12. II/736/716 stay in Lebisey Woods (Landmarine) - OK, AFD in LEBISEY
12. 8/3 MechInf / iProp / Attack Do Not Move Bretteville - AFD in BRETTEVILLE

13. II/744/711 stay in Bayeux (Cavehobbit) - OK, AFD in BAYEUX (II/744/711 is red OOS)
13. 146/49 Inf/Ranger/Land at Juno Beach and Move to Hillman Battery - OK

14. 9/3 MechInf/Ranger/move to-Attack Bayeux - OK, AFD in BAYEUX
15. 9/3CDN Inf/CoreySr/ Move to – Attack Lebisey Woods - OK, AFD in LEBISEY
16. 185/3 Infantry/ProtectiveDaddy/Move to Benouville (CounterAttack) - Only executed if 30/79 has <8 units (max 32 in any BG)
17. 6AL / 6 ABN Elite/Jcb989/Hold and defend CAEN - OK
18. 22/7Armor/ Ranger / Move to Caen (counterattack if Caen / 6AL/6ABN falls) - Cancelled because 22/7 has already been attacked
19. 231/50 MechInf/Ranger/ Land at, and take Ouistreham - OK
20. 231/50 MechInf/Ranger/ merge all units with 30/79 Armor or 185/3 Infantry in Benouville - Only executed if Benouville has <30 units (max 32)

[Ranger]

The German attack against the 22/7 Armor at Abbaye d' Ardenne should be an "Attack Against A Fortified Defense" and not as ASD as marked on your map.

I'm sorry to disappoint you viewtopic.php?f=87&t=38844&start=1680#p412746

Sorry CaveHobbit but I don't follow why I should be disappointed. I followed your link and re-read the rules and they say:

4.64 Brigade Re-organisation. A Commander may exchange up to 16 units between two adjacent BGs, to a maximum of 8 units in both directions. This will consume one move from both BGs.
4.65 Each BG may only carry out one Brigade Re-organisation per campaign day, however, either or both of the BGs involved in a Brigade Re-organisation may subsequently merge, ending the turn for that BG.
4.66 A BG that does not move, but that receives units as a result of a Brigade Re-organisation or a Merge, continues to defend its sector, and would be considered a fortified defender if it is attacked.

They don't say anything about an attack against a stationary BG, that has not received any units from another BG (aka ReOrg), would no longer be fortified defender. Quite the contrary actually.

According to the order of execution of the days orders, Abbaye is attacked well before it receives any new units. It has not moved. Any attack against it should be an attack against a fortified defender and not an attack against a surprised defender.

- Thomas