Allied campaign Cauldron Mission not ending.
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Allied campaign Cauldron Mission not ending.
I've destroyed all the 88's. I used the fog of war cheat to make certain. The mission isn't ending. Anyone else have this problem?
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It does not end early to give you a chance to complete the minor objective: saving 3 of the original group of encircled units to the northwest.
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I had understood that the minor objective was to keep the encircled units alive until the 88's are dead (thus saving them). If this mission MUST run the full 16 turns, then why bother telling the player to kill the 88's? It's not like anyone's going to just leave them be.
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The 88s do not guard any victory hexes so some players might bypass them altogether. The minor objective is what makes the mission interesting, imo, because it is a race to rescue them before they are overwhelmed. Aircraft can fly over the hindering terrain and the 88s but, since the closest allied airfield is so distant (east), escort fighters with limited fuel capacity are forced to almost immediately return -- until you capture one of the western airfields.
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The main misson is to save the troops of the 150 brigade. If you cant do that, you can still avoid losing if at the end you have taken out all the 88's. Killing the 88s doesnt end the battle though.
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You have missed part of the scenario description.
In addition to destroying the 88s you also need to occupy those hexes in "The Box" usingthe units marked as "150th xy" to do so.
That should do the trick.
In addition to destroying the 88s you also need to occupy those hexes in "The Box" usingthe units marked as "150th xy" to do so.
That should do the trick.
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Can someone enlighten me how to win this stupid game?
I'm not talking about the 'scenario description' confusion.
How do you keep '150th' alive and destroy the 88s at the same time?
I'm not talking about the 'scenario description' confusion.
How do you keep '150th' alive and destroy the 88s at the same time?
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Cauldron is my least favorite mission in the whole AC campaign. Keeping the 150th alive is just major pain in the back. You can do it by rushing some units to help them using the gap in the crevice on top of the map and invest some money in fighters and strategic bombers with enough fuel to stay over the fighting area of a few rounds and rush with the rest of the troops and roll over the 88s russian style aka disregarding the losses.johndoe2 wrote:Can someone enlighten me how to win this stupid game?
I'm not talking about the 'scenario description' confusion.
How do you keep '150th' alive and destroy the 88s at the same time?
I usually can't be arsed with that tho and settle for a minor victory. You gain the same amount of prestige, the campaign follows the same path and your losses are a lot less.
I wish i had saved a replay of my last successful Triumph attempt but i sadly forgot to save it.

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Thanks Tarrak you just confirmed my suspicion. A replay is needed forsaking 150th.
I followed exactly the same strategy as you have and the blasted 150th are alive and well at turn 11
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I haven't even tackled the 88s. So not much hope there. On top of that the sleeping German armor in the deep south has awoken (what's triggering that ?!) and just wiped out three of my units in one turn.
Still would love the hear from whoever gave green light for this scenario (beta testers, scenario designer) how they think it should be done.
I followed exactly the same strategy as you have and the blasted 150th are alive and well at turn 11
BUT
I haven't even tackled the 88s. So not much hope there. On top of that the sleeping German armor in the deep south has awoken (what's triggering that ?!) and just wiped out three of my units in one turn.
Still would love the hear from whoever gave green light for this scenario (beta testers, scenario designer) how they think it should be done.
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The mission briefing is (deliberately?) misleading here. IIRC, you are instructed to rescue the 150th, but "first" you must destroy the screen of 88s. It is not possible to accomplish these two tasks in that sequence, at least not on a higher level of difficulty. Your FIRST task is to reinforce the 150th by flanking the Axis line over the escarpment to the north. THEN you can take care of the 88s (in fact, you can press them from both sides). The key to saving the 150th is to bring land units, especially armor, to their aid. Air power is of relatively little help in this scenario, because the 150th's box is far away from your airfields, and because the 88s will chew up any aircraft attacking the screen. By the time you capture the airfields in the east, the 150th will be safe.johndoe2 wrote:Can someone enlighten me how to win this stupid game?
I'm not talking about the 'scenario description' confusion.
How do you keep '150th' alive and destroy the 88s at the same time?
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I know what I have to do (read my brief above) but how do I do it?!
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Re: Allied campaign Cauldron Mission not ending.
I didnt have much problems with this one. 2 Strat bombers, 1 tac bomber and I think 2 paras did the job. Of course I took a bit of damage and lost 1 unit but nothing too serious.
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Are You Serious? Two para stopped the endless stream of enemy arty and infantry combined with the 5 Panzers !? What about the enemy fighters didn't they go for Strat bombers? They certainly did after mineAloo wrote:I didnt have much problems with this one. 2 Strat bombers, 1 tac bomber and I think 2 paras did the job. Of course I took a bit of damage and lost 1 unit but nothing too serious.



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Im not sure what gets the enemy to send more forces to attack. I have to check if i have any save games but I didnt avoid the 88 and chose to fight them, while helping the 150 with airforce. The strat bombers had some fighters support them and the AA from 150 also did its job in defending the encircled position. Only when I broke by the 88 positions and had a clear path to 150 did the german forces activate and hitting them with strats deprived them of fuel and ammo. The strat bombers had some fighters support them and the AA from 150 also did its job. I can check later if I have any saves from this scenario but I know it was doable without reloading or restarting.
It was on general or FM level.
It was on general or FM level.
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I'm playing Field Marshal with AI setting 2 and combat random none - chess
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Pushing forward past the 88's trigger some additional attack waves but there is enough unit to be the death of the 150th even with some support over prolonged period of time. As i said already i really don't like the mission at all but of course that's my personal opinion.
What i never tried before but what may be a way to win the mission with a Triumph could be leaving only minimal force near the start point and rush the majority of the forces trough the crevice. Sweep the area around the 150th clean, take the airfields in the west to give your fighters a base within reach, deal with the triggered armor assault and then deal with the 88's last. The only danger in this approach is that if you fail to deal with the 88's in time you are facing a lose.
What i never tried before but what may be a way to win the mission with a Triumph could be leaving only minimal force near the start point and rush the majority of the forces trough the crevice. Sweep the area around the 150th clean, take the airfields in the west to give your fighters a base within reach, deal with the triggered armor assault and then deal with the 88's last. The only danger in this approach is that if you fail to deal with the 88's in time you are facing a lose.
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That's what I'm trying to do but at turn 12 (look at my screenshots) with 5 enemy panzers attacking and 88s untouched I am sure to fail



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Don't feel bad--as you can tell from most of the responses to the original post, most of us struggled with this scenario. I must confess that I restarted it after losing the 150th box early in my first attempt, when I slavishly--and against my better judgment--followed the briefing instructions to reduce the 88 screen "first."
In my second, successful playthrough, I used a more limited version of the strategy depicted in your screenshots. I divided my forces in half and sent one group (with most of my tanks) over the escarpment to reinforce the 150th. I did not try to do more than hold the box, though--I did not try to seize the airfield, and I kept a pair of armored units on the eastern side of the box, since I expected trouble from the Germans in the cauldron. Even so, it was a damned near-run thing.
In my second, successful playthrough, I used a more limited version of the strategy depicted in your screenshots. I divided my forces in half and sent one group (with most of my tanks) over the escarpment to reinforce the 150th. I did not try to do more than hold the box, though--I did not try to seize the airfield, and I kept a pair of armored units on the eastern side of the box, since I expected trouble from the Germans in the cauldron. Even so, it was a damned near-run thing.
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You can always adjust the difficulty before you play this map.
Try this:
Try this:
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Thanks but where do I need to put this file?Razz1 wrote:You can always adjust the difficulty before you play this map.
Try this:
