No Move Difference for 28mm/15mm?

GHGAustin · Post by **GHGAustin** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 8:26 pm

Managed to read though the rules this weekend. Really like what I've seen and hope to play soon.

I did notice, that while 28mm figures are mounted on bases that are 50% wider than 15mm bases, there is no difference in movement distances (MUs).

So, my question is for those of you who have played both scales, do the games play differently because of this?

Thanks,

Rob

stevoid · Post by **stevoid** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 8:57 pm

You may want to read this thread viewtopic.php?t=4422 which covers the topic.

In summary, it seems the UK scene like 25mm on 6x4 tables hence the same MU as 15mm with less points to fit, but in NZ, Oz, USA etc a lot of us are playing a MU of 40mm (same as DBM 25mm scale was) and playing on larger tables with 800 pts.

The 650 pt option with smaller MU does give a different game and is useful for an evening work out when space is a premium.

Steve

GHGAustin · Post by **GHGAustin** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:41 pm

Ah, thanks.

The argument that the movement to frontage ratio will make no difference seems a bit odd. Since wheels are such an important part of the game, 25mm BGs will be less maneuverable than 15mm BGs of the same number of elements. That is, they will not wheel through as many degrees of arc with the same movement.

Rob

durrati · Post by **durrati** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:23 pm

At first look it looks really wierd - did to me anyhow. However, I have played quite a few games in both scales. Oddly enough, there dosn't not seem to be a problem.

If not convinced and you thnk that they may be some problems in theory, have a few games and see how it pans out in practice.

hazelbark · Post by **hazelbark** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:57 pm

GHGAustin wrote:Ah, thanks.

The argument that the movement to frontage ratio will make no difference seems a bit odd. Since wheels are such an important part of the game, 25mm BGs will be less maneuverable than 15mm BGs of the same number of elements. That is, they will not wheel through as many degrees of arc with the same movement.

Yes and no. The rules are put a premium on the CMT. And this is a bigger deal in 25mm. I think the generals range is an oddity too. But i don't think it needs to be faster as everyone is faster. So it is a slightly different game. If you increas them up to 40mm per MU then troops really rocket.

GHGAustin · Post by **GHGAustin** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 3:02 am

Hmm. Very interesting. Well, a lot of us have armies in 28mm, 15mm, and 10mm, so we'll see how things work out. Unfortunately, we won't get an exact comparison, since most of our 28mm armies are late medieval (Italian Wars), while the 15mm and 10mm armies are more classical ancient and dark ages.

Best,

Rob

hammy · Post by **hammy** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 9:15 am

If you have the tables to play 25mm on 8' by 5' or larger then play with 40mm MUs and you will get a game virtually identical to the 15mm game. If on the otherr hand you only have 6' by 4' tables then a 40mm MU would make skirmishers almost useless in 25mm as there would not be enough space for them to fall back / evade.

Over the weekend chatting to some of the Burton crowd it seems they have been having lots of fun with 25mm figures on a 12' by 4' table with 1" MUs

stevoid · Post by **stevoid** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:04 am

hammy wrote:Over the weekend chatting to some of the Burton crowd it seems they have been having lots of fun with 25mm figures on a 12' by 4' table with 1" MUs

How many points? Sounds like a good set up for a recreation type game.

Steve

hammy · Post by **hammy** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:25 am

stevoid wrote:
hammy wrote:Over the weekend chatting to some of the Burton crowd it seems they have been having lots of fun with 25mm figures on a 12' by 4' table with 1" MUs
How many points? Sounds like a good set up for a recreation type game.

Steve

I think they have been using 1000 points of 25mm on a 12 by 4.