Quick play sheet?

hammy · Post by **hammy** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:13 pm

OK, my thoughs are now leaning towards three sheets organised like this:

Combat:
how many dice
POAs
scores to hit
death throw (it will I think fit with no issue so it might as well be there)

Move and distances:
maneuver table
movement distances
CMT
shooting ranges
terrain effects
variable move

Cohesion:
reasons to test
cohesion test
cohesion effects

kabrank · Post by **kabrank** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:21 pm

Hi Hammy

Nice lists

Would be nice to have rerolls listed on combat. Smaller type for this bit would be OK. Useful for players who play intermittently or who have long breaks between game.

Other than that Great

Thanks for the attention you are giving this.

Kelvin

neilhammond · Post by **neilhammond** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 7:38 pm

How about adding a auto-break calculation table? Unit size on one axis and grade on the other.

nicofig · Post by **nicofig** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 7:49 pm

The playsheets used since the beta test was good. We could use this ones.

davem · Post by **davem** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 8:02 pm

hammy wrote:OK, my thoughs are now leaning towards three sheets organised like this:

Combat:
how many dice
POAs
scores to hit
death throw (it will I think fit with no issue so it might as well be there)

Move and distances:
maneuver table
movement distances
CMT
shooting ranges
terrain effects
variable move

Cohesion:
reasons to test
cohesion test
cohesion effects

Hammy,
I think you've got it covered:-) I agree you probably can get away without a setup QRS, although a terrain chart could be useful?
Please do it in a moderately large font, none of us are getting any younger and the eyesight struggles under typical "school-hall" lighting:-)

Regards

Dave M

stevoid · Post by **stevoid** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 8:27 pm

Hammy, if you have three then you might as well have 4 given double-siding and I'd suggest Appendix 8 - detailed turn sequence as one of those sides.

Steve

babyshark · Post by **babyshark** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 8:28 pm

stevoid wrote:Hammy, if you have three then you might as well have 4 given double-siding and I'd suggest Appendix 8 - detailed turn sequence as one of those sides.

Steve

I agree. The turn sequence is very important.

Marc

Scruff · Post by **Scruff** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 9:34 am

The hardest thing with QRS is getting the balance right, the major failing with so many QRS is trying to put too much on them.

Its a QRS, not the rules so to speak.

I haven't seen the rules yet (they are in the post somewhere) so cant comment as to what may or may not be needed, but thought I would throw the warning out there anyways.

cheers

Atkins · Post by **Atkins** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:02 am

Hi

One thing I think is important is a reference back to the relevant page in the rules.

kabrank · Post by **kabrank** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:03 am

Hi All

I like Stevoid's idea for the 4th sheet. I only found the detailed turn sequence yesterday [My copy of the Rules arrived Lunchtime] and this seamed rearly useful.

But I am aware that too much can be too much and have made that error in playsheets I have developed in teh past.

TTFN

Kelvin

madaxeman · Post by **madaxeman** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:37 am

I'd like some of the pictures of painted troops, and a couple of Osprey illustrations - thats whats important in a set of rules anyway, isn't it ?

kustenjaeger · Post by **kustenjaeger** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:40 am

Greetings

If they are downloadable then I would expect to print them double sided onto card and then laminate them so a 4th sheet would be OK - failing that I would probably dream up my own additions to put on the 4th side.

Regards

miffedofreading · Post by **miffedofreading** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:45 am

I will be able to download, print on a colour laser and laminate, so agree you might as well put something on a 4th sheet, just make it less important so we can normally keep that sheet just turned to one side

Being a Brit my printer only understands A4 size, but some of these new worlders use something called "legal". Can we make the QRS work for both paper sizes?

Andy

kabrank · Post by **kabrank** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 1:43 pm

Hi All

I think USA paper size is US Letter rather than Legal

Having USA Letter and A4 will cover all the bases [Adobe should be able to generate PDF in both formats as a standard providde they are set correct in the source doc]

Kelvin

GHGAustin · Post by **GHGAustin** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 3:07 pm

Yes, in the US, Letter (8.5 x 11 inch) is the standard. Few people, other than lawyers, keep any legal paper on hand.

It would be great to have a pdf formatted for US Letter size. It is shorter and wider than A4, so stuff often gets chopped off the bottom.

Best,

miffedofreading · Post by **miffedofreading** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 3:49 pm

Sorry for getting Letter and legal all mixed up

tors · Post by **tors** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 8:56 pm

Dear copyright holders, can you post the "Beta QRS" to this site untill the new QRS is ready?.

ta,

Kingo

Grabula · Post by **Grabula** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:19 pm

Is this request for a quick REFERENCE sheet or a quick PLAY guide? I ask because I'm wondering if there is a quick start option to get to know the rules in the books themselves or located elsewhere. I'll probably sit down to play through a few solo games just to get to know the rules before I introduce it to my group.

hammy · Post by **hammy** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:49 pm

We are discussing what whould be on a quick reference sheet not a quick play guide

If I have the time I will see if I can write a basic intro to the rules although the rules themselves are actually quite readable.

To be honest I have not actually used the beta quick reference sheets for the last 6-9 months anyway. I feel that after about 6 games you know almost everything on them anyway, at least I did.

Still a nice reference sheet will be forthcoming.

hazelbark · Post by **hazelbark** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:02 pm

Grabula wrote:Is this request for a quick REFERENCE sheet or a quick PLAY guide? I ask because I'm wondering if there is a quick start option to get to know the rules in the books themselves or located elsewhere. I'll probably sit down to play through a few solo games just to get to know the rules before I introduce it to my group.

You will find that after one game you only need the rules to clarify points. It really is simple.

The second game i just tried to manuver and understand the difference between drilled and undrilled versus complex and simple moves. And by then it was easy.

It was odd at first read to be figuring out how to charge and mve, but the itneraction is important to the game system.

About 4 units 2 on each side is all you need for the first game.