Comparing units in Upgrade; no mouse-over

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dawks
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Comparing units in Upgrade; no mouse-over

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(Apologies if my describe of what's what is clumsy / unconventional. I played PG for years and years, but last time was maybe 2001! So my nomenclature is klunky.)

IIRC when you purchase an item there's a nice comparison function i.e. select a unit, see data displayed upper right, then as you mouse-over other units the data is compared to the unit you clicked on. Very nice.
Just now, doing a unit upgrade, that lovely mouse-over enhancement didn't work. I had to click on another unit to see what the data was.

A mere quibble!
After years away, I'm really thrilled at having found / purchased / installed / played Panzer Corps. I'm spending more time with it than I am with ArmA ... even more than with DCS and WarGame: Global Escalation!
So much fun ... so grateful.
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Re: Comparing units in Upgrade; no mouse-over

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Purchase and upgrade logic is a bit different. In case of purchase you need to compare two units from the list, so you select one and hover another. In upgrade one type is already fixed - it is the type of a unit you upgrade, and second type to compare you select by clicking it. If the UI showed hovered unit, then selected unit would not be shown anywhere, and this would be confusing.
dawks
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Re: Comparing units in Upgrade; no mouse-over

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Rudankort wrote:Purchase and upgrade logic is a bit different. If the UI showed hovered unit, then selected unit would not be shown anywhere, and this would be confusing.
Perhaps I'm not understanding you.
I found the purchase logic very effective: a second column showing data for the unit hovered over, compared to the unit selected.
Could this not also apply to Upgrade? First column fixed, showing the unit that is to be upgraded, second column displaying data comparison as with Purchase.

p.s. I'd normally attach images with such as this, but since I can't, I won't! ;p
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Re: Comparing units in Upgrade; no mouse-over

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bentrem wrote:Could this not also apply to Upgrade? First column fixed, showing the unit that is to be upgraded, second column displaying data comparison as with Purchase.
That's how it works, except first column shows the unit being upgraded, and second column shows selected upgrade. As I said, showing hover unit instead of selected one here does not sound right to me, because then the unit selected in the list will not be shown anywhere.
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Re: Comparing units in Upgrade; no mouse-over

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Rudankort wrote:
bentrem wrote:Could this not also apply to Upgrade? First column fixed, showing the unit that is to be upgraded, second column displaying data comparison as with Purchase.
That's how it works, except first column shows the unit being upgraded, and second column shows selected upgrade. As I said, showing hover unit instead of selected one here does not sound right to me, because then the unit selected in the list will not be shown anywhere.
Ok, we're on the same page.
But the selected unit would be displayed. Anytime the mouse is over it, like any other. And the fact that it had been selected would be indicated by the fact that its icon was brighter than others'.

What caught my eye: in Purchase I can quickly go over any number of units, doing fast comparison, even back and forth.
In Upgrade that functionality is lost: to compare I need to click each unit in turn. So the metaphor ("Mouse-over to display unit data") is lost.

I do see what you mean: Upgrading X, in my scheme I would be comparing X to A, then B, etc etc ... as I had expected intuitively ... instead of comparing A to B and then to C etc.
I hadn't thought of that.

Anyhow, now I know it's a design decision and not some sort of snag.

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