Operation Jubilee - Dieppe - Pls upgrade to 1.1

[LandMarine47]

Oh to resolve the whole undefended port just put in some Italian Coastal Divisions Named " Kreigsmarine Guards" or "Harbor Guards" just something in those giant bunkers to make the axis feel better :/

[GottaLove88s]

Oh to resolve the whole undefended port just put in some Italian Coastal Divisions Named " Kreigsmarine Guards" or "Harbor Guards" just something in those giant bunkers to make the axis feel better :/

By the time, you've got any surviving LCAs/LCTs into the Outer Harbour, you should easily have used your 8 trucks and 2 251s to bring up your engineers, infantry and VGs, plus tanks, from the two German HQs and the radar station...

Or do you mean you want those reserves and extra harbour defences also? To give the Germans a 2-to-1 ground unit advantage?

Play me Germans vs Allies... I guarantee you're not getting into the harbour LM!

[LandMarine47]

I think I'll take you up on your offer But I understand. I got on Infantry soldier there and he got ripped apart by destroyers See I want to keep those men as reserves to defend the HQ, Port, Cinema, and the small channel into the inner port besides the Men only have some 75 Morale so taking them out should be easy enough! at the 2 front bunkers

[LandMarine47]

Hmmm I have a request to make. What if your infantry are some 2 to 3 tiles from the shore. Can they "Swim" to shore? Of course one movement takes up all the AP and they can't fire at the shore. This would be really cool and the Allies could take less casualties. This might work for tanks if they are 1 tile away.

[GottaLove88s]

Hmmm I have a request to make. What if your infantry are some 2 to 3 tiles from the shore. Can they "Swim" to shore? Of course one movement takes up all the AP and they can't fire at the shore. This would be really cool and the Allies could take less casualties. This might work for tanks if they are 1 tile away.

If you can discover a way to code it, then I'm happy to try... As I understand it, boats in 'water' tiles just sink, so I don't know how we could do this?

[GottaLove88s]

PS. You'll lose less boats if you use a LOT of smoke... I painfully discovered the error of not using any smoke when Ranger killed three of my destroyers in a single turn...

[LandMarine47]

I know but eventually you have to get to shore smoke ore not

[GottaLove88s]

Yes, and when you're really close (or really far) the German coastal guns can't touch you... There's an umbrella under which you can raid... Ranger just successfully took out 2 of my guns (his own version of no.4 commando, lol) by doing exactly that...

[GottaLove88s]

PS. Obviously smoke works on shore too, to help you get under that umbrella (yes, Ranger did that too, sigh... Sadly for me, the man is a professional! )

[pk867]

Hi,

Idea- What if you make a new tile called 'shallow water' which is essentially a clear hex with the attributes you want.

You can color it slightly diferrent for the players to know then you could have sand bars maybe?

[GottaLove88s]

Hi,

Idea- What if you make a new tile called 'shallow water' which is essentially a clear hex with the attributes you want.

You can color it slightly diferrent for the players to know then you could have sand bars maybe?

Thanks PK, Great minds think alike!
See this thread -> viewtopic.php?f=105&t=41426&p=389459&hi ... es#p389459
It's something that Pip is considering adding to the next update... although given his massive work list, it's worth you reminding him (please ... So it's not just me causing my usual trouble )

[LandMarine47]

Another thing the Commandoes should be further ahead of the main Raiding Force as in Histroy to knock out the guns. There we can even the Germans with Italians and further Commandoes in front

[GottaLove88s]

Another thing the Commandoes should be further ahead of the main Raiding Force as in Histroy to knock out the guns. There we can even the Germans with Italians and further Commandoes in front

That's easy already. Just place your commando DUKWs further forwards and your LCTs and destroyers further back during the Allied deployment turn... Can explain how if u need?

It's kept flexible so players who want to lead with closer destroyer bombardments/smoke can do that too... while keeping the LCs safely to the rear...

[GottaLove88s]

If you're still having trouble landing, even with smoke, there's potential to start the scenario at night (with reduced LOS) and switch to dawn lighting (with normal LOS) after a fixed (or random) number of turns...

Amaris has suggested a clever method to achieve this here, viewtopic.php?f=104&t=42500, but RL has prevented me from testing it... for now...

Plenty on the wishlist!

[LandMarine47]

1. I mean where the German Ships are at the entrance to the harbor. And where the German Convoy is should be another landing force. Central is where the Commandoes are located and Left and Right is the main force. Leave it as daylight but give it rain like on Bloody Ridge. Make it even more realistic. I think for a fact the German Ships should be in the Inner Harbor and Uboatjaggers in the outer. Get rid of the freighter it's just eye candy and in their place the Italian Coastal Divisons (Harbor Guards) in the forward bunkers (2 only) near the 1st 152MM. And the 105MM cannon should be in another position. Further back possibly the Cassino, Church, or Train Station.

[LandMarine47]

Here's a Map

[GottaLove88s]

1. I mean where the German Ships are at the entrance to the harbor. And where the German Convoy is should be another landing force. Central is where the Commandoes are located and Left and Right is the main force. Leave it as daylight but give it rain like on Bloody Ridge. Make it even more realistic. I think for a fact the German Ships should be in the Inner Harbor and Uboatjaggers in the outer. Get rid of the freighter it's just eye candy and in their place the Italian Coastal Divisons (Harbor Guards) in the forward bunkers (2 only) near the 1st 152MM. And the 105MM cannon should be in another position. Further back possibly the Cassino, Church, or Train Station.

LM, Interesting suggestions. It was overcast on the day, not raining, and of course no.3 and no.4 commando, who attacked on the far flanks, benefitted from night starts... Here's my recommendation. You're responsible for the fictional version, that does whatever you need... Experiment around and let's upload as a multi scenario set... Ok?

[GottaLove88s]

Btw sadly, freighters aren't just eye candy... Used properly, they're awesome scouts (aka spotters for coastal guns and the Luftwaffe)... taking me back to the shame of Ranger toasting 3 of my destroyers, sigh... Try it and see... If u only consider 'em eye candy, you're missing five valuable naval assets...

[LandMarine47]

Sound like a good idea not everyone will agree with my ideas Map I drew in above
Btw trust me i know but don't you think that's a bit unfair/unrealistic

[GottaLove88s]

Sound like a good idea not everyone will agree with my ideas Map I drew in above

Go for it! Ask others what they think/want here. And we'll post as a set.
I believe Ranger would like to mod it too... Maybe to create an SP version, same map, different starting setup...