Gallic Warriors basing question

[cwchmc]

I still have a couple of weeks to wait for my rules from Amazon US so I am hoping someone can answer a couple questions for me so I can go ahead and get started working on my figs. I have 25 mm Gallic warriors armed with a variety of spears and swords. I'm wondering if these can be mixed in a battle group? What depth should the bases have? And how many figures per base?

Thanks,
Chuck

[nikgaukroger]

Mix away to your hearts content

Bases are 20mm deep for Heavy Foot and 30mm for Medium Foot - 60mm frontage of course. Strictly HF should be 4 to a base and MF can be 3 or 4 - a Gallic army can have both types in it.

[rbodleyscott]

I still have a couple of weeks to wait for my rules from Amazon US so I am hoping someone can answer a couple questions for me so I can go ahead and get started working on my figs. I have 25 mm Gallic warriors armed with a variety of spears and swords. I'm wondering if these can be mixed in a battle group? What depth should the bases have? And how many figures per base?

Thanks,
Chuck

Certainly you can mix the figures together - this will give a realistic effect. Gallic warriors are graded as Impact Foot, Swordsmen. They are assumed to (mostly) have javelins to throw as well as swords, so a mixture of figures with javelins and ones who have already thrown their javelins is entirely appropriate.

Lowland Gallic tribes (the majority) have their warriors graded as Heavy Foot - which would be 60mm x 20mm bases. Highland tribes (a minority) have their warriors graded as Medium Foot - which would be 60mm x 30mm. Gaesati are all Heavy Foot.

You can have a lowland army with a highland ally or vice versa, so you can have some BGs HF and some MF.

MF can have 3 or 4 figures per base, as you wish.
HF are officially supposed to have 4 figures per base, but the rules allow you to use less figures if your figures are too large to fit 4 on. The rules also allow you to use deeper than normal bases if you need to to fit your figures on.

To be fair to your opponents, however, if you have a mixture of MF and HF in the army, you really ought to make the two types distinguishable from each other.

So I would suggest 3 alternative schemata:

1) Follow the standard basing with MF 3 or 4 to a base on 60 x 30, and HF 4 to a base on 60 x 20.
2) Use 3 figures for all, but base MF on 60 x 30 and HF on 60 x 20.
3) Use 60 x 30 for all, but use 3 figures for MF and 4 for HF.

[cwchmc]

Thanks. Thats great help. I'm using 1/72 plastics so getting 4 figs on a base shouldn't be a problem.

Chuck

[cwchmc]

The current group I am working on will be HF. I have thought of a couple more questions. How many bases per Battle Group (I hope that is the correct terminology)? I get the impression they are variable. Correct?
And with the base including the command figures, any special guidelines on how they should be based?

Thanks again,
Chuck

[hammy]

A battlegroup will be made up of between 2 and 12 bases. In the case of Gallic warriors they will be 8-12 bases strong. Command bases are just another base within the BG with leaders and standards for visual effect. They should be based the same as the rest of the BG.

Actual general figures can be either command stands (normally cavalry) or on square bases with a little diorama of a general and his companions / aides. I have seen generals based with one mounted figure for a Troop comander, two for a field commander and three for an inspired commander. I think the principle is good but that perhaps one mounted and a couple on foot for a TC, two and two for an FC and three mounted for an IC might work better.

[nikgaukroger]

Battle groups of warriors are 8-12 bases.

Your commanders are based separately usually on a 60mm square base - as you are using 25/8mm basing I assume. What you put on the base is up to you although the list notes say that a commanders should be depicted as chariots (up to 100BC) or as cavalry (from 300BC) - but realistically it doesn't matter much.

[rbodleyscott]

The current group I am working on will be HF. I have thought of a couple more questions. How many bases per Battle Group (I hope that is the correct terminology)? I get the impression they are variable. Correct?

8-12 bases per BG for the HF/MF

6-8 for light foot javelin skirmishers, archers or slingers (60x30 2 figures per base) [Not many of these in list so don't get carried away]

4-6 for cavalry (60x40 3 figures per base)

4-6 for chariots (60x80 1 model per base)

And with the base including the command figures, any special guidelines on how they should be based?

Most play-testers have been using their existing generals that were based up as per normal troops for their type. However, the rules allow commanders bases to be up to 60mm x 60mm and you ca put as many or as few figures on it as you like. Although not specified in the rules, a general on a chariot would probably need to have an 80mm deep base to fit.