Morris Axis vs Kragdob Allies

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Re: Morris Axis vs Kragdob Allies

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Kragdob was surely very concerned about cultural significance of Paris and gave it up without a fight in order to save the city's legacy!
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Re: Morris Axis vs Kragdob Allies

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Cybvep wrote:Kragdob was surely very concerned about cultural significance of Paris and gave it up without a fight in order to save the city's legacy!
Yes , it looks like a chivalry ! But on the battleground , since it is a initiative retreat , it does more like a trap ! ( Allies airstrike area)
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Re: Morris Axis vs Kragdob Allies

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Cybvep wrote:Kragdob was surely very concerned about cultural significance of Paris and gave it up without a fight in order to save the city's legacy!
Exactly! To avoid loss of historical heritage we withdraw to fight on terrain where collateral damage will be minimal. :-D
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Re: Morris Axis vs Kragdob Allies

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May 23rd 1943 fair



Allies continue their retreat . Axis move forward & kill several corp & mech . We just wonder where should the Allies retreat to if they still want to retreat . Maybe to Brest ?




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Meanwhile , more troops land in Southern France & begin to attack towards Italy . We will deal with them after we finish the present mission





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Re: Morris Axis vs Kragdob Allies

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June 12th 1943 fair


Allies troops make a suiside attack & kill 2 panzers , but in return ,We kill all rest Alllies troops in Western France except the Mech in Brest & three wound units transfered back to UK . it looks we conquer France again . Maistein is promoted as Field Marshal for command this great campaign . In this campaign Axis kill 18 allies units ( 2 arm, 7 mech 9 corps) . At least the victory of this campaign win some time for Germany to take a breath !




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Then , we will assign Guedlian to deal with the Allies in southern France & Maistein was transfered to the east to counter the Russian steamroller which is coming close to Polland & Romania !






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Re: Morris Axis vs Kragdob Allies

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Impressive defences in Poland, Morris :D.
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Re: Morris Axis vs Kragdob Allies

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your ostfront is a disaster, i bealive you cant stop the russian when you defeat the west allied
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Re: Morris Axis vs Kragdob Allies

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Cybvep wrote:Impressive defences in Poland, Morris :D.
Polland ? what impressive ? I still never mentioned about it .
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Re: Morris Axis vs Kragdob Allies

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afalarco wrote:your ostfront is a disaster, i bealive you cant stop the russian when you defeat the west allied
we will see . :)
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Re: Morris Axis vs Kragdob Allies

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afalarco wrote:your ostfront is a disaster, i bealive you cant stop the russian when you defeat the west allied
to be fair - he doesn't have a front :lol:

what he is doing is a reverse 'Barbarossa', letting the Russians exhaust themselves as they run across Europe so they will be nicely tired when he counter attacks
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Re: Morris Axis vs Kragdob Allies

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July 2nd 1943 fair


Axis accomplish the Ardennes mission ,but it almost impossible to conquer Brest under the Allies bombs . So we quit it . After this we transfer some of our elites to north Italy & make a small counter attack to kill one tank , Maybe more next turn .




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In Med , Allies is going to land in Sardinia. It looks difficult to against it . Sardina will fall within 2 turns





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Re: Morris Axis vs Kragdob Allies

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Morris wrote:
Cybvep wrote:Impressive defences in Poland, Morris :D.
Polland ? what impressive ? I still never mentioned about it .
I wasn't very serious there, you know... ;)
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Re: Morris Axis vs Kragdob Allies

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You don't really have to take Brest. The main thing was to kill Allied units to force them to reinvade France. If you can finish off the invasion in southern France too then you can get time to stop the Russians before the next winter.

France will eventually fall to the Allies again, but at least they have to move up to the German border again. It takes time and if the invasion comes so late that bad weather will stop them then you get quite strong into 1944. Best of all if you can hold France till the bad weather begins. Then Overlord starts in March 1944. That is late enough to have a chance to win the war.

I don't think the Russians are super strong because they got a huge beating in 1942. So when an armor / mech blob in the east can halt their offensive too.
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Re: Morris Axis vs Kragdob Allies

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Borger,

If you call loss of ~10 INF corps hudge beating then I would like to see your game it must be impressive :-)

Actually leaving a port for Allies allows to make an offensive even in winter.
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Re: Morris Axis vs Kragdob Allies

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The Germans captured a lot of terrain to keep the Russian production down. I haven't seen yet a strong Russian armor force. Time will tell if the steamroller have started or will wait until 1944. Right now Russian units are just recapturing lost territory. The Germans have retreated out of sight.

I expect Morris to have a welcome party in Poland or eastern Germany that will give the Russians a bloody nose. All the units he had in the east must have gone somewhere. He is buying time. He gets local superiority to destroy the opposition where he is strong and then he withdraws elsewhere.

I think the best Allied strategy is to coordinate the new Overlord with a Russian storm on the German main defense line in the east. Don't give the Germans a chance to use a strategic reserve to win the battles.
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Re: Morris Axis vs Kragdob Allies

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I don't need to do Overlord again because I hold Brest. I think on Morris place I would try to capture it. Then he would really sealed off France and make troubles for Western Allies!
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Re: Morris Axis vs Kragdob Allies

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Doing Overlord means landing in France again to get to Hamburg. It's faster to land on a broad front rather than expanding from Brest.
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Re: Morris Axis vs Kragdob Allies

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Kragdob wrote:I don't need to do Overlord again because I hold Brest. I think on Morris place I would try to capture it. Then he would really sealed off France and make troubles for Western Allies!
To take Brest is an impossible mission for me ! Brest only have two hex to be attacked , & without very strong Airsupport ,It is almost impossible to destroy a 10steps mech in a fortress in one turn ,Maybe I could reduce it to 2-3 steps but few chance to terminate it , and there was a transport in the port . They will replace the mech immediately ,meanwhile my offence troops will badly hurt by the Allies high lvl tacs . We would not make it & we can't afford for the loss . :(
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Re: Morris Axis vs Kragdob Allies

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Yes, Morris you would need troops for 3 waves of attack but if you gathered all your forces you could have done it. My air support didn't save my troops so it would not save Brest if you concentrated your Blob there.

Initially I wanted to capture Cagliari to rebase my air there so you would be facing it anyway :-) Still more difficult to run from the south then from Brest.
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Re: Morris Axis vs Kragdob Allies

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I simply want to state that I have never enjoyed an AAR as much as this one. I rarely post, and this post may be improper, but nonetheless thank you both.
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