Cavalry Charging Infantry Within 2MU

[pugsville]

Does the drop in cohesion level for this happen BEFORE or AFTER defensive fire? (it it on being charged or contacted?)

[dvorkin]

Before défensive fire, it is automatic unless cavalry is intercept by rear or flank

[deadtorius]

If the enemy cavalry is successfully intercepted the charge is cancelled and no tests are taken.

Keep in mind that if you are in square you do not drop cohesion from an enemy cavalry charge.

[pugsville]

SO Infantry NOT in square CAN or CANNOT form square to avoid dropping a CL for cavalry charging with in 2MU? (they can form square to avoid being contacted in the flank/rear) It it for being charged , or for being contacted from less 2MU)

They still drop the CL even if defensive fire aborts the charge? If the drop is before defensive fire they fire at reduced level it makes no sense to regain it if there is no contact?

Charge Response Order (cavalry within 2MU - infantry NOT in square)

1. Counter charges cancel charge?
< drop CL for being charged within 2MU?? is it here? ie You always drop the 2MU charged if not square even if you later form square)
2. Infantry response (form square or stand and fire)
3. Drop CL if fail test forming square (but still form square)
<Or here drop CL (in addition to 3) for being charged within 2MU and if still not in square)
4. defensive fire
5. possible test to charge to go home

[BrettPT]

If cavalry charge infantry that are within 2MU, the infantry drop a cohesion level unless they were in square to start with.
If in tactical, the infantry then decide whether to stand and shoot, or instead form square. They infantry take a CT and drop another cohesiosn level if they fail this.

Tis does change if the unit decides to form square instead of standing and shooting, or if defensive fire aborts the charge.

There is one part of this that is open to possible interpretation, which is when the cavalry start within 2MU 'as the crow flies'. but because of wheeling etc will move more than 2MU to contact the target.

We play that the 2MU is an absolute distance, measured as the crow flys. It doesn't matter if the charging cavalry would to travel more than 2MU to actually contact.

Cheers
Brett

[deadtorius]

A counter charge that successfully blocks the charge will cancel any cohesion tests the target would be forced to take. so if you have a unit in tactical and enemy cav within 2MU and a friendly cav that can counter charge then the charge is declared if the interceptors successfully intercept the chargers the target does not take any tests.
(page 32 last bullet before Defensive Fire: The original target of the assault does not have to make any of the otherwise compulsory tests for being assaulted if all of the assaulting units fail to make contact because of an interception)

Wavering targets that are being charged do not have to test, skirmishers would not be forced to flee, Infantry in tactical is unaffected by cav within 2MU. However if you have more than one enemy charging and not all of them will be intercepted its back to the original tests and cohesion losses.