Battle size.

[Legate71]

I was wondering if FoG is a system that has a unit size convention (ie number of troops represented by a stand?) I have noticed that the baseline games seems to be between 650-800 pt forces being fielded on a side. Is this a cohort/maniple (to use the roman model) sized battle? Or, smaller?

Just trying to get an idea of the scope of the game.

[kustenjaeger]

Greetings

The FoG website includes a statement that "Also, in reality, some armies would be relatively small, consisting of as few as 5,000 men, whilst others would be enormous. Field of Glory will allow you to see what might have been had these forces been equally matched, using a points system, as each army can then be scaled up or down whilst retaining an individual mix and balance of troops to create “what if” encounters."

Certainly some people are building Punic Wars legions as 2 x BG of 4 bases of hastati/principes and 1 x BG of 2 bases of triarii with a BG of 4 velites (see preview). This gives these roughly a 1:100-120 figure ratio I suppose?

Regards

[hazelbark]

I was wondering if FoG is a system that has a unit size convention (ie number of troops represented by a stand?) I have noticed that the baseline games seems to be between 650-800 pt forces being fielded on a side. Is this a cohort/maniple (to use the roman model) sized battle? Or, smaller?

I think 800 points is closer to a legion.

[Legate71]

Assuming paper strength of a legion. 800pts equals 4500-5000 troops? Hmmm, wow. That is big, and food for thought.

[hammy]

The idea behind a FoG army is that it is just that, an army. There is no strict element to men scale. As a rough guide an 800 point FoG army could well represent an entire Republican Roman consular army of two Roman and two allied legions or it could represent a medieval force of perhaps 8-10,000 men.

The Slave revolt army I am using in a fortnight represents an army of well over 50,000.

[nikgaukroger]

Well, allegedly 50,000 ...

[hammy]

Well, allegedly 50,000 ...

I will have 40 odd bases of Mob, that has got to be worth something numbers wise.

I think that in terms of figures the army is pushing 500 figures at 1000 points

[ars_belli]

The idea behind a FoG army is that it is just that, an army. There is no strict element to men scale. As a rough guide an 800 point FoG army could well represent an entire Republican Roman consular army of two Roman and two allied legions or it could represent a medieval force of perhaps 8-10,000 men.

The Slave revolt army I am using in a fortnight represents an army of well over 50,000.

And for my Caesarian Roman army, each BG of 6-8 HF bases represents an entire legion. The flexible-scale concept seems to work just fine!

Cheers,
Scott

[pbeccas]

What point sized army are most people starting out with? 800 points?

[rtaylor]

What point sized army are most people starting out with? 800 points?

I've played with 800 points so far, but I intend to play some 650 point games to prepare for the US Cold Wars tournament. With the lists I'm noodling over, the 150 point difference amounts to one troop commander (35 points) + 115 points of troops. That could be as few as two battlegroups, depending on what you choose to subtract.

[neilhammond]

What point sized army are most people starting out with? 800 points?

I started with 600 when learning, although 650 would probably be better. 800 is usual in most 15mm single-player UK beta comps.