kingt wrote:Hey, GL88s, I have a couple of questions for you regarding the future progress of the battles.
1) how do you plan to create the scenarios for maps like the recently finished Gold, where Allies control 2 flags while Germans hold on to three. What I'm interested is how the deployment would work, and whether you need screenshots to see how the Allied units' progress?
For special situations of landing beaches only, I will allocate territory for next battles according to the VP flags taken. So no screenshot required.
kingt wrote:2) for maps such as Gold what are the rules of engagement? It's not exactly AFD, although Germans are still in their remaining defending positions. But since the Allies hold enough foothold, it should play out as ME, no? Even if it is AFD on Gold on June 7, the Germans don't have enough units left to outnumber 8/3, so this question is mainly for future situations and/or other beaches where we could end up with similar setups (3v2 flags in favor of Germans) but with German BG with at least 25, or more, units left.
Beach landings where Allies won the right to stay without dissolution penalty are still played out as AFDs in the sense that Germans will get 25 units (if their defending BG has 25 left) and attacker will get 20 units (if attacker still has 20 left). However, territory will match the VP flags taken in the previous turn.
2nd BGs, landing that turn, will fight as AFDs with the same tenuous start as if they had just landed fresh.
kingt wrote:3) There is an important multiple battle scenario which we have to talk about before it happens, as it could happen in the near future. The beach sectors hold more than one BG, so let's take Gold for example with a hypothetical scenario. What happens on June 7 if a German BG is order to attack Gold sector, while another Allied BG is ordered to land. All the while, the units engaged in Gold on June 6 would still be there. So we'd have two German units vs two Allied units. How would it play out?
But assuming it's 2 vs 2 BGs, how many battles are fought and how will they be fought?
Thanks!
See 7.22 and 7.23... Let me know if these don't address the circumstance you have in mind?
7.2 Players will be able to select up to 20 units from any of the forces available to them in their BG's unit pool. Because BA force selection only permits both sides to choose the same number of units, GM's will "fix" the extra units if one side receives more than the other, eg. 5 units for the defender in a AFD.
7.21 If a player lacks confidence in his chances of surviving a coming battle, and has a safe neighbouring sector controlled by his side to withdraw to, he is not obliged to select the max.20-25 units for that battle. He may instead choose a small ambushing force of eg. 2x paras, 1x flamey, 1x 17pdr, and hide them somewhere in hope of taking out a couple of enemy tanks. Any non-assigned units will safely withdraw with the rest of his BG pool when he loses. The risk is that he must hold at least one flag at the end of the battle to avoid dissolution (two flags for Allies on landing beaches)... Sometimes Tiger brigades will swap places with Volksgrenadiers
7.22 Multifront battles - X vs 1 - When one BG faces attacks from multiple directions (or Germans facing two Allied BGs landing on the same beach), the defender will face his 1st attacker (decided by attacker's move priorities), and play that game... If the defender loses, he will withdraw, or is dissolved as normal... However, if the defender wins, any battle losses are removed from his BG unit pool, and he will then face his 2nd attacker with a reduced force selection.
7.23 Multifront battles - X vs Y - When one BG defends against attacks from multiple directions, but it is reinforced by a second BG (eg. Allies on landing beaches, or Germans in Vimont or Villers-Bocage), the 1st attacker will fight the original defender, the 2nd attacker will fight the 1st reinforcer, a 3rd attacker would fight a 2nd reinforcer or the original defender if there are no further reinforcements, etc.
kingt wrote:This is just in theory as it can't happen with the current BG deployment as there are no German units in reach of Gold.
Don't forget that the holder of Caen gets +1 moves for all of his BGs...
